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Yup,
APM8512 (servis built) that had been water damaged from leaking bearings. Put it on for a test and the thing damn near exploded right in from of me. The machine kept going as well until I yanked the plug out ❗Craig
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This thing actually set on fire. Fire brigade job!
I’ve got a picture of it for the horror photos thingy.
Where should I email it?
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OK.
A little background…..
The customer ring us and says, ‘You sold us a Philco washer dryer about 10 years ago. It’s set on fire this morning!’
I’m thinking ‘We’re gonna get sued!’
Then the customer says ‘It’s first time it’s gone wrong. What a great machine. What do you sell now?’ and buys a Bosch W/D off us.
The fire brigade said it was the pump, but it looks like the module to me.
I’ll sort the picture later, I’ve actually got some work to do for now. 😆
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I had a look at the one that went on fire I was at.
The water had been getting sprayed over the module during the spin cycle and was running in between it and it’s casing. This must have been happening for quite a while ’cause the whole card was sodden.
The front of the board went on fire while I was watching it, giving off the most awful, acrid smoke you ever did smell and the back of the board looked as though it had been gently simmering for a good while beforehand.
I think the machine ended up getting exchanged due to the amount of knacked parts in it.Craig
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It is rare even for a Merloni/Servis module to ‘self destruct’ and catch fire, as usually outside factors cause the failure. The majority of modules these days are AC 240 volt and the fuse takes out any problem as a rule. The little black relays on them often fuse and melt but not catch fire.
Older machines like the Philips AWB080’s did catch fire sometimes when the tranny went out and burnt the casing, but never lit up the rest of the machine 😆
Did have one a few years back (turned out to be a Blomberg*, whatever the hell that is?) that when I inspected the machine for the insurance company, did appear to me to have started from the module? But as the whole machine was burnt nicely to a crisp, I couldn’t swear to it (only at it, if you catch my drift)
*What is a Blomberg anyway, I’ve only seen one black one?…Should I buy a fire extinguisher if I branch out and start fixing them?
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I’ve never even heard of another module going up in flames. I put this one down to a freak occurrence that was the result of just the right faults developing in just the right place at the right time with the right conditions. Or wrong conditions etc. depending on your point of view.
As far as I was aware Blomberg was some foreign-type telly channel or something like that 😕
Craig
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NWAR wrote:As far as I was aware Blomberg was some foreign-type telly channel or something like that 😕
Ah Brilliant, thanks Craig!
I’ve got a Blomberg Channel on my ‘Worldspace’ digital radio receiver, I think….?
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Tut tut Martin, all those posts about Blomberg machines as well. 😉
I have seen several fire cases in my time, mostly washer dryers funnily enough. Then people wonder why I don’t like them much. 🙄
Candy Turbo’s used to go up, sometimes it was the dryer fan assy before they modified it by fitting a thermal fuse on the top of it and latterly, the timer would go up. Both made a lovely mess and there were flames present. Of course it was also one of the few occasions that Candy swapped the appliance with no arguments whatsoever. 😉
Teh old Zanussi dishwashers had a habit of self-combusting as well, hence the huge mod that we had to run about changing looms on. Then there was the frost free fridge freezer, ZF62/21FF from memory, that liked to go up on a defrost.. well it was frost free alright!
And the Nexus jobs that the centre seal gave up on allowing water onto the motor often produced a fair old bit of acrid smoke, not any flames most times though.
Yeah, I’ve seen a few ugly messes in my time and they can ignite, but as Martin says quite rightly, it’s usually an external source that actually ignites. The favourite is fluff build up, burns just lovely when it’s dry enough.
K.
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kwatt wrote:Tut tut Martin, all those posts about Blomberg machines as well. 😉
I’m a tease sometimes eh? :martin:
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I know that a module setting on fire is a really rare occurance. So what’s the chance of, a module setting on fire, the customer not sueing me, and the customer paying for a replacement washer. That’s what I got. I should have picked some lottery numbers that day.
We’ve had a couple of pumps catch fire before (both askoll), but the boss saw the module and said he’d never seen that happen before, and he is ooooold!
Bloomberg used to be Ocean/Brandt. It could be anything now.
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