Separating sealed drum on Seimens IQ300 for bearing replacement

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  • #101329
    Alfie Atkins
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    Hello I hope someone out there can give me the benefit of their experience and advise on how to split the heat sealed drum of a Seimens IQ300 washing machine.

    The bearings have gone and it is either give it a go of trying to fix it or just bite the bullet and buy a new one. So feel I have nothing to lose and could save it going prematurely to landfill. I have seen a youtube video where a guy split open the factory sealed drum and then stuck it back together with mastic and bolts. It appeared to work for his as he posted a version of it running again.

    My main question is how do you split the drum apart as that bit is missing from the video? Here is a link if anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RwuI3q54Vc . Whole thing seems a bit of a long shot but willing to try, so any answers or general advice would be welcome.

    Cheers

    Alfie

    #484334
    electrofix
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    short answer is you cant

    there are all sorts of videos on utube even one guy using a chop saw, using his foot to steady it and wearing sandals

    as a professional if it has a sealed drum then it has to be fitted as one unit

    Dave

    #484335
    Alfie Atkins
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    Thanks for taking time to reply Dave. Appreciate it.

    #484336
    kaibart
    Moderator

    How old is the machine as there is discounts available depending on age with parts but not with call out

    #484337
    Alfie Atkins
    Participant

    6 years old now. Take it that not economical to get new drum.

    #484338
    andyjawa
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    One of the last sealed tanked Bosch ( or a Siemens ) that I had a callout to was about 4 years old owned by a couple with no kids so one would presume the machine was not overly hammered. The bearings had failed. Since the then cost they were not willing to pay for the repair and so I kindly got given the machine for spares. When, with time on my hands I dismantled the blighter and cut the plastic tank in half to remove the drum to have a look as to why the machine had failed, in my view, prematurely. The bottom line was next to zero grease on the oil seal which caused friction = the oil seals early demise = water = nuked drum bearings.
    Other machines I have seen with the same problem at 3 years old are Indesits ( sealed tank ) and some curry`s Logiks ( not sealed tanks ). Machines where it seems less likely to happen appears to be Zanussi. This is all based on my one man band, which I freely admit is a more or less a hobby business these days so take that to mean a much lower number of machines encounted.

    #484339
    electrofix
    Moderator

    andyjawa wrote:One of the last sealed tanked Bosch ( or a Siemens ) that I had a callout to was about 4 years old owned by a couple with no kids so one would presume the machine was not overly hammered. The bearings had failed. Since the then cost they were not willing to pay for the repair and so I kindly got given the machine for spares. When, with time on my hands I dismantled the blighter and cut the plastic tank in half to remove the drum to have a look as to why the machine had failed, in my view, prematurely. The bottom line was next to zero grease on the oil seal which caused friction = the oil seals early demise = water = nuked drum bearings.
    Other machines I have seen with the same problem at 3 years old are Indesits ( sealed tank ) and some curry`s Logiks ( not sealed tanks ). Machines where it seems less likely to happen appears to be Zanussi. This is all based on my one man band, which I freely admit is a more or less a hobby business these days so take that to mean a much lower number of machines encounted.

    my ex had a bosch washer dryer, one of the ones with the spider on the outside. first set of bearings failed but after replacement the new set lasted over twice as long as i greased the seal

    this problem seemed to get worse when they lowered the water level, was thinking the water would act as a lubricant making the seal last longer

    Dave

    #484340
    andyjawa
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    Very true. Like the old wff2000 design.
    “this problem seemed to get worse when they lowered the water level, was thinking the water would act as a lubricant making the seal last longer” Well that is partly true as sort of proved by the high water level old Phillips AWB 080 series ( from failing memory! ) had a V seal and S/steel disc set up which seemed to work ok as opposed to the rather dreadful V seal s/steel disc set up that lower water level Ariston used on the Margarieta series in early 1980s. OR it could be that the 080 span and pumped out simultaneously that made it last longer whereas the Ariston did not: pumped out then spun. Interesting stuff I do recall that there was less grud in the Phillips at the time in and around the bearing hub and spider ( which might well account for spinning and pump out at the same time but I never got around to anything of a scientific investigation – me thinks its a bit late now although a modern machine`s drum clean programme would mimmick the Phillips so perhaps that is on the right tracks of thinking.

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