Hoover H3W69TME-80 not filling or draining

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    washingmachinewoman
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    Another not straightforward case. Would appreciate suggestions if anyone has encountered the same thing and managed to diagnose.

    Hoover H3W69TME-80 31011580 just over 12 months old, which is itself a warranty replacement.

    Customer reported E02 error, was expecting faulty inlet valve.
    Instead, there is no noise at all suggesting there is no power to the valve. The machine will agitate though, the error only comes on after a few minutes (which I haven’t witnessed)
    I then tried a drain&spin cycle, the pump is not activating.
    Appears the only things working is the door lock and the motor.
    Insulation also very low for a machine of that age, only 50 megOhms. Shot up when I unplugged the inverter, suggesting that might be faulty but I don’t see what that would have to do with the inlet valves and the pump.
    Had partial look at the board, couldn’t get some of the connections off, what I saw looked visually ok.
    Blew down pressure hose just in case.

    My gut feeling is it’s the board?

    Lucie

    #490547
    electrofix
    Moderator

    have you checked pump

    on some machines open circuit pump causes this

    Dave

    #490548
    suedehead1
    Participant

    Hi,
    i had similair it would only take water through one half of the valve.
    fitted new pcb fixed it,

    #490549
    washingmachinewoman
    Participant

    Pump on order, somehow don’t think the customer would go for new pcb if pump doesn’t do the trick but you never know.

    #490550
    electrofix
    Moderator

    did you check board as well

    have had hoover machine leak on pump and make it go bang while also taking out the board triac that controls it

    so was pump rusty ?

    Dave

    #490551
    washingmachinewoman
    Participant

    It’s a stab in the dark at the moment, I haven’t been back to the machine. Figured it was the quickest way, as can’t go back until next week.

    I was only able to partially inspect the board as some of the connections wouldn’t budge. I’ve damaged a board before because the connections were too tight, so didn’t want to risk it. No obvious sign of damage but it wasn’t the component side.

    #490552
    electrofix
    Moderator

    ok
    here’s hoping

    Dave

    #490553
    washingmachinewoman
    Participant

    Reporting back on this. It was the pump, as suggested by Dave (thanks!), resistance was 3.5Mohms. It’s always the thing you forget to check, isn’t it. I wouldn’t mind but I have some notes on my phone from way back when I did my training, including “if no fill can be caused by brushes or pump. Catches engineers out”. Remembered the brushes (it was a brushless motor), but not the pump — it was the first time I encountered the fault in the field — and didn’t think to look up my notes. I’m sure there’s a lesson in there somewhere…

    #490554
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Its called experience

    you dont make the same error twice and you learn oddball faults as you go along

    Dave

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