Servis Quartz rubber door seal needed

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  • #102915
    splash
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    Hello, I am restoring my servis quartz 6035 and need to replace the door seal as it is leaking between the rubber and the glass porthole.
    I beleive the part number is DBT50 or DB051 or 18-sv-01, or 18-sv-03 or DBT32 or sv1803.

    The machine was also released branded electra 6900E/ 6950E and Hitachi FW101 FW133 FW134.

    I have new motor, new drum bearing kit and have descaled the drum and everything looks OK except the door seal. With this done it will be good as new and last many more years.

    I have tried the usual parts places online but they are all out of stock.:(

    This is it but sold out:
    https://tdspares.co.uk/product/servi…astic-tub-only

    Please recommend a shop I can get the door seal or if you are a repair engineer who might have a spare in the shed, etc.?

    Are seals for any other machines or brands known to be compatible?

    Also, what is the purpose of the notch shaped part? There is no corresponding protrusion inside the machine.

    #491034
    electrofix
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    the notch helps to keep the clothes in the drum as it goes into spin

    its a very long shot but will look at the old rubbers in work next week

    no other seal will fit as all seals are different

    Dave

    #491035
    splash
    Participant

    Thanks for your reply and for checking your stock of parts. It would be fantastic if you find one.

    There seem to be 2 types of servis quartz, the older slimline series which had a square metal door just bigger than the porthole in the middle and the 603X (e.g. 6035 ,6036) series (with ‘piano key’ controls) which was more modern with a large metal door taking up the whole width of the machine.

    As far as I can tell looking at forums and parts photos, all the piano key models had the same seal and the slimline models had a similar seal but without the notch.

    I had a look and can see how the notch works now. It makes a bump inside the rubber groove inside the seal. If clothes get stuck in the groove, as they turn, they reach the bump and get pushed back inside the drum.

    With the older, non-bump versions, do many clothes get stuck in the groove or damaged?

    I will check back here next week. Hopefully something will turn up.

    Many thanks

    #491036
    electrofix
    Moderator

    should have an old servis parts book with part numbers etc
    most wholsalers site have deleted the data now so its get harder to find out which is which etc

    Dave

    #491037
    andyjawa
    Participant

    “There seem to be 2 types of servis quartz, the older slimline series which had a square metal door just bigger than the porthole in the middle and the 603X (e.g. 6035 ,6036) series (with ‘piano key’ controls) which was more modern with a large metal door taking up the whole width of the machine.”
    It boils down to the earley quartz had an enamelled tank and your one should have a plastic tank. The plastic tank`d version had a the door seal as you describe. Your link reveals nothing, least to me.
    I too will see if I have one but from memory I suspect not. I will have a look elsewhere for you, might get lucky sometimes.

    #491038
    splash
    Participant

    Yes the outer tank is plastic and the whole front is plastic circle and fits on with metal clips. The door seal is held on inside the plastic front by a metal band joined by a nut and bolt that tightens onto a ledge inside the hole in the circle. The outside of the seal ring also had a metal band holding against the metal front case panel.

    The drum itself is metal with normal perforations (no chevrons). The machine is dated around 1990/91 as the heating element has a 1990 date on the label.

    I tried a local old skool domestic parts shop yesterday, the proprietor must be 80 to 90 years old and he had a very old hoover seal but nothing servis unfortunately. He did not have many washer parts, mostly vacuum cleaner bits.

    Servis Quartz is a real classic of applicance engineering so I hope I can save it. I have done a lot of work on it and it will go many more years if I can get the door seal.

    Thanks for looking. Fingers crossed.

    #491039
    andyjawa
    Participant

    Hi Splash. Well I went to my extensive store room (garden shed) and had a bloody good look for you and I am sorry to tell you that I do not have one. I phoned up Ezze Fit and they have told me that although they list it as out of stock it is in reality obsolete – why not just say unavailable / now obsolete? Looked on Partmaster and 4myServis and your model is not even listed – probably too old. Went and tried Mad Maddocks (18SV01) obsolete. Tried LM Electrical (qualtex online e-bay public shop) and mais non too. Had a look for you on Ebay no dice there either. Hopefully Dave of Electrofix can come up with the goods. I think you are going to struggle with this one to be frank but in the whacky and ridiculous world (and it is, no doubt about it) of domestic appliances that would not surprise me one jot.

    #491040
    splash
    Participant

    Thanks for all that effort searching Andy.

    I started the restoration 3 years back but put it on hold due to life getting in the way. In 2021 the seal was availble from several places. There were loads of parts on ebay, PCBs motors, the lot. I should have got everything while I had the chance.

    There seem to be no old washing machines listed either. I’m thinking that during the lockdown, lots of folk had a clearout and scrapped all their old junk!

    The existing seal has a lot of mould and limescale caked all over it. The outer part that seals against the glass looks a little weathered and that it where the leak is coming from. There is no major damage to the seal so if I can’t find a replacement, it it possible to restore it?

    I bought HG applicance descaler and some litmus strips, so I could soak it in a tub with the solution diluted. Could this further damage the rubber?

    Acid resitance depends on the type of rubber it is made of. Does anyone know the type of rubber used in door seals?

    I found this product called “rubber renue”.

    https://mgchemicals.com/products/ele…/rubber-renue/

    Has anyone tried this rubber restoration product? Would it do any harm to try? The machine will work if I reassemble it as it is albeit with a tiny leak. It is not enough to form a drip but has caused a little rust to appear but I don’t see it standing the test of time.

    #491041
    andyjawa
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    “I should have got everything while I had the chance” I`ve heard that one before many times over the 40 years.”There seem to be no old washing machines listed either. I’m thinking that during the lockdown, lots of folk had a clearout and scrapped all their old junk!” Your not joking what with a few folks I heard about got Furlough spons thrice over (due to fraud) even the ones who just got it once bought new machines hence the repair work disappeared almost overnight (nice one Richi thanks a million, no self employment grant for me just the usual sod all) hence a lot, me included, just called it a day and retired early muttering obscene comments. Some put their left over parts on Ebay some couldn`t be bothered and it all went down the tip and then was written off on the tax return or kept and then written off on the tax return; the former are the ones dead keen on Green issues BTW!!
    Never heard of Rubber Renue. I don`t at a guess think it will not work for you and might even make things worse due to its tactiness on the door glass but of course up to you if you want to have a bash.”The machine will work if I reassemble it as it is albeit with a tiny leak. It is not enough to form a drip but has caused a little rust to appear but I don’t see it standing the test of time” yep you are probably right there but if no seal is now available you might just have to..
    Still, wait until Electrofix comes back to you as he might come up with the goods if you hear nothing (as typical C21st) email him or post again to him

    #491042
    electrofix
    Moderator

    well I have the DBT32 version

    in fact i have 2 of them

    I do seem to remember there were 2 tubs and there was different outer tubs which used different gaskets

    have a feeling the 32 was for the metal tub

    Dave

    #491043
    andyjawa
    Participant

    Well spent awhile doing a bit of jiggery pockery and this is what I figure the genuine part number for the metal enamelled tank version door seal is 2300255 which is not the one required and obsolete (x1 is on ebay uk). DBT32 is = to partmaster 1681255pm which is equal to 18sv01 which morphs into 18sv03 = plastic tank version so it looks as though Dave`s dbt32 = the right one for the plastic tank version (obsolete too elsewhere) that Splash has.

    #491044
    electrofix
    Moderator

    2300255 is correct for the early enamel tubs
    have manuals on early quartz 600 series and thats the one fitted to that

    Dave

    #491045
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Well mine has a notch. It’s to miss the door lock

    Dave

    #491046
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Not sure what the difference is now. Too many years have passed.

    the difference could be where it meets the tub. Got a feeling the change is the protector that closes the gap between outer and inner tubs

    #491047
    splash
    Participant

    The one on ebay is a 2300255 and lists older/slimline models 300,301,303,3035,308,3085,309,310,600,601,602,6009E,6013. The ebay one has no notch. I saw a picture of someone working on an older metal tub version and the door seal has no notch and looks like the ebay one.

    As your one has the notch and looks the same as mine in the picture it may be worth a try.

    Would you be kind enough to sell me one please?

    I will send a pm.

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