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  • #102976
    amebb
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    Hey guys, i need some help with a BEKO washing machine.

    I have a BEKO WMB 714422 B washing machine. It was working fine and i had no issues.

    A few days ago it was running and then there was a ‘pop’ sound from the machine, blew the fuses at home.

    I opened up the washing machine and found that one of the brushes had broken off. So, i ordered new ones from Amazon.

    Got the brushes today and fitted them to the motor.
    Replaced everything and then ran the machne on a spin cycle. The display was working fine and even the door mechanisim locked etc.
    But there was no movement on the drum.

    I checked the resistance between the two brushes and that was fine.

    So, what else can i have a look at to see why the machine is not spinning?

    Does anyone have a repair guide, repair manual that i can use to figure this out?

    Any help most appreciated.

    Thank you

    #491300
    electrofix
    Moderator

    google search [h=3]2817690100[/h]
    you will find this board at the top of the machine on the right in a cradle

    remove board and check for blown tracks as this board has fusible tracks in case of shorts

    Dave

    #491301
    amebb
    Participant

    electrofix wrote:google search [h=3]2817690100[/h]
    you will find this board at the top of the machine on the right in a cradle

    remove board and check for blown tracks as this board has fusible tracks in case of shorts

    Dave

    Thank you for your advice Dave

    I have removed the unit as suggested and i will have a look with the multimeter to see if there is any damage there.

    There are two pictures that i have taken to show the unit.

    Thank you

    #491302
    amebb
    Participant

    electrofix wrote:google search [h=3]2817690100[/h]
    you will find this board at the top of the machine on the right in a cradle

    remove board and check for blown tracks as this board has fusible tracks in case of shorts

    Dave

    Other side of the PCB

    #491303
    amebb
    Participant

    electrofix wrote:google search [h=3]2817690100[/h]
    you will find this board at the top of the machine on the right in a cradle

    remove board and check for blown tracks as this board has fusible tracks in case of shorts

    Dave

    Hello Dave
    So, i examined the PCB and noticed that there were two points on the PCB where the tracks had no continuity. I have marked these with red circles.

    Does this PCB supple power to the washing machine circuit board?
    Also,would you recommend a new board or can i bridge the track with a thin wire soildered on?

    Thank you
    Paul

    #491304
    electrofix
    Moderator

    the board only supplies the motor so that is why your motor is not turning

    the tracks on the board that blew are designed to act like a fuse and will have blown when the brush shorted

    if you know how to test the board you can repair it but you have to know how to test a bridge rectifier

    other than that it needs replacing

    Dave

    #491305
    amebb
    Participant

    electrofix wrote:the board only supplies the motor so that is why your motor is not turning

    the tracks on the board that blew are designed to act like a fuse and will have blown when the brush shorted

    if you know how to test the board you can repair it but you have to know how to test a bridge rectifier

    other than that it needs replacing

    Dave


    Hi Dave
    Thank you for your message.

    I tested the components and the bridge rectifier is working okay and within designed tolerences.
    The other components are working fine too.

    I was thinking of repairing the burnt tracks but inbetween that i had already ordered a new unit off ebay that cost me about £15.00.

    My thinking was to just replace the unit and also keep the wife happy too….

    I will let you know when i get the new unit and how everything works out

    Thanks

    #491306
    amebb
    Participant

    amebb wrote:


    Hi Dave
    Thank you for your message.

    I tested the components and the bridge rectifier is working okay and within designed tolerences.
    The other components are working fine too.

    I was thinking of repairing the burnt tracks but inbetween that i had already ordered a new unit off ebay that cost me about £15.00.

    My thinking was to just replace the unit and also keep the wife happy too….

    I will let you know when i get the new unit and how everything works out

    Thanks

    Hi Dave
    So, i got the unit today and installed it. I ran a basic cycle and the main fuse in the fuse box blew.
    Now i need to find out what is causing this issue. I may need a new motor or it could be something else.

    Thanks

    #491307
    electrofix
    Moderator

    could be

    A) motor

    B) shorted wire

    C) pcb relay stuck

    did the motor turn before the fuse blew ?

    Dave

    #491308
    amebb
    Participant

    electrofix wrote:could be

    A) motor

    B) shorted wire

    C) pcb relay stuck

    did the motor turn before the fuse blew ?

    Dave

    The motor was working orginally when it blew. One of the brushes broke off and caused a shrt circuit that blew the PCB that privides power to the motor (Now replaced with a new one).

    Now, when i switch on the machine and start a cycle, it starts and then the fuse blows.

    If, i disconnect the harness on the motor then the fuse will not blow.

    So i have isolated the issue and that is arund the motor.

    Question…. if i use a continuity meter to check the continuityn between the brushes, what should happen and also what should the resistance be between the brushes?

    Thanks

    #491309
    electrofix
    Moderator

    as i said it could also be the board. as a fuse blows it creates a large current flow that can weld relay contacts. if the reversing relay is in the wrong position it can cause high current flow

    and yes it could also be a blown motor

    Dave

    #491310
    amebb
    Participant

    electrofix wrote: as i said it could also be the board. as a fuse blows it creates a large current flow that can weld relay contacts. if the reversing relay is in the wrong position it can cause high current flow

    and yes it could also be a blown motor

    Dave

    Hi Dave
    Thank you for your reply. I did check the four power relays on the circuit board and they were okay.

    My thougt are that the motor may have an issue somewhere. Will check now.

    Thanks

    #491311
    andyjawa
    Participant

    This is fairly common. When the pcb blows it tends, as you just found out on replacing your pcb, that will have blown again- normally blows the commutator in the motor or rather its t`other way round. If you are lucky and replace the motor and that pcb for a brand new one again it should be all back to normal BUT there is a slim chance that the user interface pcb might be affected too. Had this a few times (the motor and the bridge pcb) but when you add up the parts it becomes an expensive Beko. I have to say, but this is my own opinion, I never liked this series and there was another where the pcb was inbuilt within an inverter motor and that was a load of grief too. For other folks who might stumble upon this post the only Beko I did like other than the now ancient WMA series – I had one (bought about 2003) is the basic Chinese made Beko. One customer had two machines, the simple Chinese one for the doggy towels (3 dogs) and the posh Bosch for their own undies, need-less-to-say it was the Bosch that screwed up far more than her Beko which suffered from blocked filter – well, whatcha expect with 3 dogs worth of hair? and some fruit and nut broke the door( though God knows how they managed that but they did). A truimph of post revoluntionary Maoist excellence?

    #491312
    amebb
    Participant

    andyjawa wrote:This is fairly common. When the pcb blows it tends, as you just found out on replacing your pcb, that will have blown again- normally blows the commutator in the motor or rather its t`other way round. If you are lucky and replace the motor and that pcb for a brand new one again it should be all back to normal BUT there is a slim chance that the user interface pcb might be affected too. Had this a few times (the motor and the bridge pcb) but when you add up the parts it becomes an expensive Beko. I have to say, but this is my own opinion, I never liked this series and there was another where the pcb was inbuilt within an inverter motor and that was a load of grief too. For other folks who might stumble upon this post the only Beko I did like other than the now ancient WMA series – I had one (bought about 2003) is the basic Chinese made Beko. One customer had two machines, the simple Chinese one for the doggy towels (3 dogs) and the posh Bosch for their own undies, need-less-to-say it was the Bosch that screwed up far more than her Beko which suffered from blocked filter – well, whatcha expect with 3 dogs worth of hair? and some fruit and nut broke the door( though God knows how they managed that but they did). A truimph of post revoluntionary Maoist excellence?

    Hi and thank you for your reply.

    The fustrating thing for me was getting the right motor for my machine.
    The motor that i needed was Arcelik 2835640200. The one i found on Ebay was Arcelik 2835640100.

    The motor that i had from the machine i removed the motor and dismantled to check everything. The commutator was checked but i was not happy with the readings i found. There was no earth leakage from the brushes to the body of the motor.
    I would say that the motor needs to be replaced and that is what i am doing. Just waiting for the delivery guy to bring my motor… fingers crossed that will be tomorrow.

    Personally, i am not a great fan of Beko…. it is an okay… make nothing exciting. As long as it can wash the clothes, wife is happy and i am happy… win win really lol

    Will keep you guys posted on what happens when the motor is replaced.

    Thank you

    #491313
    electrofix
    Moderator

    both motors listed for that machine 0100 was superseded by 0200

    dont know why the number change but electrically either should be ok

    Dave

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