Diplomat ADP5701 wiring query and LPG de-conversion info req

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    DaiLaughing
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    We just bought a cooker which may not have been the bargain it appeared at first. It’s a dual fuel and the main element in the oven doesn’t work – no major problem (thinks I) I’ll just fit a new one so we bought it.

    The trouble is that when I went to remove the element the wiring on the back had me puzzled. I expected three wires (I’m clever like that) – negative, positive and earth. The earth is fine but the negative and positive terminals are wired/bridged together (to each other!). It doesn’t surprise me therefore that the element doesn’t work (it shows a complete circuit so may be OK but looks dodgy so probably will have to go anyway)!

    There do not appear to be any spare wires dangling down so I am guessing someone has been at it and messed it up. I’m OK with the multimeter so should be able to track the relevant wires down but have no idea what is going on in cookers so don’t know where to plug them when I find them. Should the +ve and -ve wires run straight to the element or does the current have to go through another component and then to the element?

    The other problem is that it didn’t even occur to me that the cooker could be LPG. It is. So can it be de-converted easily or would I need the original burner bits (which we don’t have) to go back to natural gas? I don’t know whether the conversion is done by adding bits or swapping bits. If adding I can just call the corgi man and have him switch it back.

    Normally I’d be looking to call in an expert straight away (I fix computers and know it’s best not to meddle if you are an amateur sometimes) but if I pay out on getting a sparky-type in to sort the wiring and then the LPG deconversion can’t be done cheaply without extra bits I’ll have wasted the first bit of money. Then it might be best to dump the cooker and start again. If I know that both problems can be easily sorted (in theory) and the cooker would then be OK I’ll spend the money. To do that I pretty much need to wire the element up and test it.

    Can anyone advise?

    #143748
    kwatt
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    Re: Diplomat ADP5701 wiring query and LPG de-conversion info

    This is one of those occasions where you really need an engineer. 😉

    If the wiring’s been tampered with it could rapidly turn into a nightmare and, connect the wrong two wires and you may well end up with a fried clock, at about £100 to replace. Not good.

    Apart from which there’s the running danger of you electrocuting yourself, again, not good.

    As for the gas jets, you’ll need a mains gas kit whic normally aren’t that expensive but if you don’t want singed I’d advise having them replaced and the cooker tested for gas soundness, that means a CORGI engineer. Since you don’t know the history of the cooker you don’t know what’s been messed with and it’s just not worth taking any risks with it.

    K.

    #143749
    DaiLaughing
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    Re: Diplomat ADP5701 wiring query and LPG de-conversion info

    I agree with you on the gas thing. That’s why I’m hoping to get the electrics fixed first. I know I need the gas man to check and sort the burners so I don’t want to spend that until I find out about the electrics. Thanks for your thoughts. It looks like I’ll be dumping it:-(

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