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Hello there,
I am a newbie so please bear with me.
I have also been posting on http://www.diynot.com in the applicances section … if you want to check out my story so far, please check the following link …
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35832
… maybe some chaps who frequent there frequent here – but just in case someone knows something here who has not seen there (DIYnot).
With me so far?
Well, after you have read “the other” forum 😉 I have a question – related to my prob but may need answering for others also…
A bit of a spin off from my other post but lets say you have two identical motor control / speed control modules from the same supplier and one is a 1000 version and one is a 1200 version (1000 spin speed, 1200 spin speed).If you have a 1200 spin speed washing machine (and motor) and plug in a 1000 spin speed module into the washine machine instead of the 1200 module – but still keeping the 1200 motor … would it go bang or just go slower?
Obviously the module has got to be the same manufacturer and looks the same / connections same etc…
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badkarma wrote:Obviously the module has got to be the same manufacturer and looks the same / connections same etc…
The short answer to your question is that in theory whichever module you fit (1000 or 1200) it will work just fine.
The badkarma here though (pardon the pun by the way 😉 ) is that having waded through your postings on the other site, I have concluded that your motor (and module) are goosed!!!
I can also rule out the wiring harness causing the triac to blow, as you surely would have spotted that long ago? So therefore I would diagnose a duff motor has blown the module along with it 😥
Sit back and figure it out first….the motor is TEN YEARS OLD!…no Indesit motor can stretch beyond the limits…and yours has typically expired too!
I rest my case 🙂
P.S. As fido mentioned in one of his posts…buy a Bosch
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Thanks Martin,
To continue in my quest, I might have a quick look around for a replacement motor if there is one going cheap … as I’ve already got a replacement module for £3, if I can get a working motor as well on the cheap that will just get me through Christmas, I will treat myself to a Bosch next Feb.
Obviously if I cant find a motor cheap enough (and soon enough) I might get a Bosch at the weekend (along with an overdraft 🙂
many thanks again for the reply.
Best regards
Steve
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Re: http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35832
Hmmm – not a safety warning in sight anywhere……….
Penguin45.
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All hints and tips from Pros and guys who own “Been There, Done That” T shirts are welcome … 🙂
Please let me know any safety concerns – Is it bad what I’m attempting … or do I just need to be really careful?
Thx
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Not really – common sense mainly. If you’ve been having a surf around the site for info, you will have realised that we end almost all posts with “Power off” or the like. The reasons are twofold – most posts are answered by professional repairers, who are concerned for the safety of those asking for advice, secondly to legally cover our tails!
Martin has identified your problem in one; the saga in DIYNOT has drifted on indecisively for a good few posts, so next time, you know where to come………
So, once more for the cameras: Power off before investigating further.
Good luck and regards,
Penguin45.Re: Speed Control / Motor Control Module
Thanks very much for the advice – much appreciated. I always unplug any unit before working on them – but its good as another reminder to burn (hopefully burn not the operative word) into the subconcious! You can never have too much safety 🙂
Thanks to Martin also and everyone else who has answered …
Will let you know if I get it up and running again 🙂
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badkarma wrote:Will let you know if I get it up and running again 🙂
That would be great if you would, meanwhile I find the other thread fascinating reading! 🙂
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OK … for those who are following the other thread mentioned above … here are the results from the Belgian jury …
Went home at lunch and found the new module that I bought off ebay behind the door… (thanks to garyjulia36 on ebay) … 18 hour posting – must be a record on ebay 🙂
So, there i was with new module and possible dodgy motor … did the tests with multimeter and all seemed OK reading 1 (M) Ohm. Brushes read 4.0 ohms though … garyjulia36 said no more than 1.5 – can anyone shed more light here ?
Anyway, a chap called fido suggested a REAL megger test, I thought instead of plugging into washing machine with old SCM, I took it down the road to my newly discovered POOLES DOMESTICS warehouse unit (which I never knew existed) behind our local petrol station …
I showed him the motor saying it might be still dodgy (having not done a megger test) and asked him if he had any spare working ones … the chap said he didnt but he could give it a test for me and performed the following …
Tried a little device (similar to a Multimeter) on the terminals then did some kind of local loopback connection on the terminal block and plugged it into the mains by this black box. Motor was sat on concrete floor and started to spin up gradually to full speed. Only sparks I could see were small (3mm ish) blue ones where the brushes contact. No other major sparks. He tested it for about 30 seconds and it looked OK and he said it tested out OK.
So, hurried back home, had another look around for any chafed wires or shorts on washing machine casing but could not see any. SCM fitted nicely into old plastic case and all connections fitted snug. Motor also fitted and tensioned up.
Plugged in to mains, set programme 7 for spin (no water) and HEY PRESTO! the drum started to spin up slowly then got faster and faster to top spin!!!! WOOHOOOOO !!!!
But, real proof of the pudding is in the 3 course meal (?!) so had to go back to work at this time (and still need to reconnect outlet hose) so tonight I will perform a full wash test (half load naturally 😉 ) and see how it goes …
Also, last night, spent a bit of time cleaning brushes as they were coated from brush down to motor housing in (carbon?) dust … could this have caused a short ?
Thanks for your help so far …
Will report back later after a full test 🙂
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badkarma wrote:could this have caused a short ?
In a word, yes
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Thanks NWAR, hopefully this was the cause of my problems … we will wait and see 🙂
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Hello all,
OK its just been on its first full (well … half full) wash, and it seems to be running dandy-o!!!
Its now on its second slightly heavier (with bath-pre-soaked clothes 🙂 ) load and its a third of the way through.
One the first run I noticed a high pitch squealy (not rubber squealy – more of a metally squealy) noise – but this has stopped after the first washes end high spin session … It does not make this now on the second run so I will put it down to brush realingment / settling in after I took them out for a clean up or some other righting of the unit for all its ins / outs / ups and downs (the washing machine waltz) recently.
Hopefully all should now be OK for a while (touch wood).
Thanks to everyone who has helped me out with this – its very much appreciated.
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