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  • #13348
    deltra
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    does anyone have any ideas about starting an apprentice ? is there any gov grants to help with cost?i really would love to be able to employ someone to train, then i maybe could have a holliday :rotfl:

    #154355
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Oh, oh….

    This is something I’d love to know more about as we need one too before the old boy pops his clogs. Waste of knowledge if he doesn’t impart that to some poor young soul. Although, if it’s anything like me being taught, that could prove a pretty arduous and painful experience for someone, not saying who. 😉

    I think there’s local EU grants available and I think someone was looking into it as, on our rates, we’d struggle to pay a salary with no immediate return.

    K.

    #154356
    gegsy
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    Re: apprentice

    We be fine Ken with this government Martin will be workin till he is 70 😆

    Greg

    #154357
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: apprentice

    gegsy wrote:We be fine Ken with this government Martin will be workin till he is 70

    Wearing orange overalls in B&Q I expect 😕

    Meanwhile if can pass on some of my knowledge to ‘disciples’ on UKW, my mission is complete :rotfl:

    #154358
    Tinhips
    Participant

    Re: apprentice

    If you take on a 16 year old there are level one training certificates, produced by the Electrical and Electronic Services Training Council, which includes DASA, are fully funded and backed by the DFES, LSC and Business link. These have been operating in the Midlands this year at 118 centres, as a trial before rolling out in April 2006 to the rest of the country.

    As for help in paying wages Business Link would be the best people to talk to as they along with the Local Skills Council have access to several funds, including E.U money.

    Further information is available from
    the DFES web site http://www.dfes.gov.uk
    forum-Learners and Job seekers.

    #154359
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: apprentice

    Tinhips, whilst you answer is very welcome and informative, we all need a way of funding a trainee………

    Can anyone answer how you can insure someone under 22 to drive a £10,000 van, full of £5,000 worth of stock, at peak times during the day?

    Kevin

    #154360
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: apprentice

    Nail on the head pretty much Kevin.

    Experience has taught me that most under 25’s aren’t interested in working particularly, they’d far rather be larking about but… They still want a new van, some cool mobile phone with unlimited text and talktime and a fantastic salary, often more than I earn! Okay, I don’t earn that much but you get the point. They drive like fiends and go through tyres, brake pads and God knows what else alarmingly quickly then whinge about a cr4p van. 🙄

    Where we’ve gotten someone from a similar service industry, ex-military or suchlike and re-skilled people we’ve had a far greater success rate, far better work and far less cost to be frank about it.

    I have an 18 year old and a 19 year old that really want a job, but what’s the point? I have to train from scratch and fork out silly money for them to be able to drive any work vehicle and endure the pain of them growing up, I’m afraid that the outlay is far too great for the return. Speaking of which, if I did employ one of these two, on the rates that we’re paid the return just isn’t there for many years, too many. So without some serious financial incentive neither of them has a hope, not because they lack the ability to do the job or to be trained to, but simple economics comes into play irrespective of my feelings of there not being enough young people coming into the industry.

    It’s just a case that the business, whilst for the future may well need the extra staff, cannot afford to carry them for a year or more whilst they train and therefore young people are pretty much ruled out. We also cannot just stick the prices up to cover the cost, we’d lose what little chargeable work we have and we can’t do it with contract work period. It’s not just this industry that suffers from that problem and that, I think, is why young people often struggle to get into a lot of careers.

    I’m not discriminating at all I don’t feel, I’m being a realist as if I were forced to carry the cost burden it could possibly ruin the business, putting another three people out of a job which hardly helps.

    K.

    #154361
    deltra
    Participant

    Re: apprentice

    thanks guys,ill just forget about that idea 😥

    #154362
    gdownes
    Participant

    Re: apprentice

    We at UKW are working on projects to increase the level of ‘new blood’ in the sector and like most things can’t tell you much more than that right now!! and we are also going to try and find the correct funding steams and we have a seat at EESTC.

    Watch this space!!

    George

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