Actual Cost

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These days Work Providers are looking to fix their costs, they work to a cost per job, just as we do. In their case it’s in their interest to keep the labour to a minimum, quite often at our expense.
You have no doubt heard the rumour that Kenwood/Elba are paying CDSL £57.00+ vat per call, in which case that equates to a 39{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} admin fee on your labours! It’s not so long ago that Nesn were on 23{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} admin fee for the work they administered for Mastercare.

In December we became aware of a manufacturer and an insurance work provider, both seeking help with the setting up of networks, using individual businesses therefore cutting out the “admin fee”. Whilst we were approached by both parties we feel we should take advantage of the number of Manufacturers/Work Providers and Insurance companies we will have at our meeting. After all you would want a share of the “saved” admin fee, wouldn’t you?

What we want to do is show our audience is, that as independents we are aware of our costs, that we understand that a lower BER rate is ripping us off, that profitability is joined at the hip with 1st time completion. It’s time we put pressure the other way, it’s time the lowest contract paid £40.00 as a minimum, it’s time we helped each other achieve more for ourselves.

I was speaking to a bricklayer a week ago, who earns £600 a week, for working in one place! As a new van pulled up, he remarked ” this’ll be the joiner, they always have new vans!” Quite, take a look at the vehicles our guests arrive in……

Kevin

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kheath wrote:that we understand that a lower BER rate is ripping us off, that profitability is joined at the hip with 1st time completion. It’s time we put pressure the other way, it’s time the lowest contract paid £40.00 as a minimum, it’s time we helped each other achieve more for ourselves.

I would be an interesting exercise to establish national and even regional ‘per job’ costings I agree. But you have to be so very careful what you actually do with that information once it’s collated.

The idea of getting a handful of manufacturers, insurance agents and pin-stripped suited wp’s in one room and springing that fact one them is not the way to go about it though. Besides they are all too aware of the increasing costs that everyone is forcefully subjected to by an ever spiralling downturn in the High Street price of whitegoods.

Those ‘admin costs’ they work to will never be compromised as well you know. Their continued pressure put upon each and everyone for 1st time completion and an ever lowering BER rate will only get worse. Spouting facts about the agents costs will only antagonise them further and possibly even promote a greater ‘divide’. Besides, as it stands, you can only use this information to adopt a “please sir, I want some more” approach at best!

kheath wrote:In December we became aware of a manufacturer and an insurance work provider, both seeking help with the setting up of networks, using individual businesses therefore cutting out the “admin fee”.

Now this on the other hand is the only real solution to the problem, by approaching manufactureres and insurance companies directly. As indeed the likes of Connect did not so very long ago and they created CDSL virtually overnight to become a giant in the business that we all now seem to regret for some reason (I wonder why?).

We have simply to ‘cut out the middle man’ as the one and only solution to our problem. The big problem with that as I see it, is that UKW by accident or design has alienated and embarrassed these manufacturers over the last 3 years by all the traffic that has passed its many forums and topics. I find it difficult to imagine we could kiss and make up to them? Whirlpool for example have been put through the UKW wringer big time in that time so I can’t see them coming round to that idea?

Finally, please consider those businesses that would really not want you to rattle too many cages for them. They are ‘keeping their heads down’ and working the system thank you very much. They will be less than pleased to find wp’s imposing greater sanctions on them at this moment in time.

SOFTLY SOFTLY ! 😉

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Martin wrote:“The idea of getting a handful of manufacturers, insurance agents and pin-stripped suited wp’s in one room and springing that fact one them is not the way to go about it though. Besides they are all too aware of the increasing costs that everyone is forcefully subjected to by an ever spiralling downturn in the High Street price of whitegoods.

Those ‘admin costs’ they work to will never be compromised as well you know. Their continued pressure put upon each and everyone for 1st time completion and an ever lowering BER rate will only get worse. Spouting facts about the agents costs will only antagonise them further and possibly even promote a greater ‘divide’. Besides, as it stands, you can only use this information to adopt a “please sir, I want some more” approach at best! “

What a load of rubbish Martin……your so wrong, it’s exactly the attitude they rely on to keep the status quo.

Martin wrote:” Finally, please consider those businesses that would really not want you to rattle too many cages for them. They are ‘keeping their heads down’ and working the system thank you very much. They will be less than pleased to find wp’s imposing greater sanctions on them at this moment in time.”

Re read the 1st post Martin, all info is confidential, that means we won’t tell ANYONE where we got the facts and figures from.

Kevin

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Will the low costs of the one man bands, working form home here not give a unrealistic low average cost that may make the mutli engineer outfits, also here, appear rather overpriced?