Philco PA207

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  • #15979
    iadom
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    Not sure of that model number, just spoken to customer on phone. I haven’t repaired a Philco for many,many years, ‘E’ clips and door locks mainly in those days.

    He says that there is a squeak when drum is revolving slowly, I suspect that will be the oil/water seal on the drum shaft so not to worried about that. Real problem is that he says the machine will wash but then fails to spin. If they reset it to spin it will then do a spin, seemingly quite smoothly although they also report the occasional white soap flecks on the clothes. Had it not been for the fact that the machine is, according to the user spinning perfectly after resetting I would have suspected brushes.
    THe old Bendix/Philco’s used to get bunged up in the black rubber ‘L’ shaped pressure hose, does this machine still have the same pressure chamber?

    #167061
    timdowning
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Sounds to me like a partial blockage somewhere on the drainage side, hence poor wash and no initial spin. Selecting the spin again is just giving the pump that extra bit of time. Electrue list a whole selection of spares for that model including bearing seal.

    #167062
    iadom
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Thanks for reply, similar suspicions to mine, will check it out on Thursday. :tup:

    #167063
    eastlmark
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Jeff, check the module for a dry joint on the motor relay, a common problem on these, also the module plugs burn their pads on the module. a sliver of solder usually did the trick. The other thing on these was the temp sensor which caused all sorts of problems not at all related to heating! that model number is correct.

    #167064
    iadom
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Thanks for that ‘Mick’ 😉


    JIM

    #167065
    eastlmark
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    Re: Philco PA207

    sorry about that Jack.
    😳

    #167066
    iadom
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Strange one this, went today and she had the machine on. It was just starting the spin cycle which it performed perfectly. Motor, module, harness appear perfect. Filter and all hoses plus pressure chamber clear.
    The only thing I could fault was the Askoll type pump which was very noisy, however I could not get it to fail. She is going to try it again and if need be I will change the pump to eliminate that as a possible cause.

    #167067
    Lawrence
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Hi Geoff
    It’s the NTC thermistor or the element going open circuit ,These machines had the most bizarre self diagnostic system whereby if it detects a fault in the wash it shuts down drains and advances to the end ,customer comes back to machine and finds wet laundry thinks it hasn’t spun ,when she retries it will spin okay because that part of the cycle wasn’t faulty.
    I used to know the NTC reading of the top of my head will try and dig it up for you ,but a rule of thumb is if the face of the NTC is discoloured its shot .

    Lawrence

    #167068
    iadom
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Thanks for Leroy, will check that out.


    JIM

    #167069
    Lawrence
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Sorry getting my Jim and Geoff’s mixed up 😳

    Lawrence

    #167070
    iadom
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    Re: Philco PA207

    No problem Lawrence, 2nd time in this one thread, the problem you describe would also account for the soap residues still on the clothes.

    #167071
    Lawrence
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    Re: Philco PA207

    Thats the one ..

    #167072

    Re: Philco PA207

    Hi Jeoff,
    Got one of these rang up just now. Has bought machine S/H a year ago being told by seller it was 2 years old. So that makes it 3 yo now???Reported fault is motor making a little attempt to move but then giving up.
    I suppose that could be the module connector or relay terminal burnt but it could be a duff motor. Maybe water will have leaked from the suspension welds or out of that bl**dy awful backplate. As it’s on the edge of my area I don’t want to bother with it unless it’s a machine that’s worth fixing. Anyone know how old it is really?
    Mike.

    #167073
    eastlmark
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    Re: Philco PA207

    would guess at 7-10 years.. maybe only a dry joint on the motor relay on the module though.

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