Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

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  • #17028
    Chandy
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    Hi,

    I have an Indesit evolution 1000 (we10). At the weekend I went to see if it was finished a load and it was sitting silent and showing F-03 in the display. The clothes were soaking wet so I turned it to spin to see if I could get it to, and it started a main cycle instead! I let it run anyway and it seemed to run fine for a while but then it just sat and made all the right noises, didn’t move, and showed F-03 again.

    I have no idea how old this machine is as it was in the flat when we moved in. There’s no manual around either.

    Does anyone have an idea what is wrong and what it would cost to repair?

    Thanks,

    Chandy

    #172629
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    It’s to do with the temperature control, if you follow this link to the forum search and search for F03 you’ll find pleant of references to it, check all the Indesit and Ariston related posts 🙂

    http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ile=search

    Dave.

    #172630
    Chandy
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    I could have sworn I did that already and didn’t find much of a consensus but looking again…
    Okay, I can check for and fix a broken wire if that’s all it is. Got a multimeter too. Is there a guide available to where to find the thermistor for someone who’s never seen the inside of a washing machine? Right now I don’t even know how to get the top off!

    Chandy

    #172631
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    Chandy wrote:Right now I don’t even know how to get the top off!

    May I suggest then you ask an engineer to call and carry out the repair for you 😉

    Check the repairs@ link below 🙂

    Power off if you do decide to proceed :zap:

    Dave.

    #172632
    Chandy
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    Hi Dave,

    Okay, the top is off (and plug out) and everything looks fairly shiny, new and in good order. I’m guessing the thermistor is the bit positioned just behind the inlet for the hot water? If so, this is the only item that seems loose? I can slightly rotate and move what seems to be a partially copper-clad plastic housing around on the inside-side of that pipe. There are wires connecting into it which seem solid enough though the whole unit moves if I wobble the wires.

    What should I be looking for from here?

    Chandy

    #172633
    Penguin45
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    Thermistor is located on back lower part of the drum, either as part of the heating element or as a separate sensor just above it.

    Power off please.

    Regards,
    Penguin45.

    #172634
    Chandy
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    I think I’m being misdirected here. I put the machine on a short-spin only. The programme came up as two minutes duration and the machine started, but never moved. It -sounded- like it was though! The wet rrrrsh-rrrrsh-rrrrsh-rrrrsh noise is there but the drum doesn’t move. I can rotate the drum fine using he hub on the back and the belt looks good.

    I suppose the open thermisotor circuit could be casuing a loss of power to the motor?

    Think I’ll go unplug it again!

    Chandy

    #172635
    Chandy
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    Woah woah woah, this is all going a bit weird now.

    Okay. On a whim I decided to try a short cycle (30 mins). This appears to be three repititions of fill, forward and back for five minutes, drain then spin. It pretty much worked perfectly! I basically sat and watched the entire time and tried to nurse it though if and when needed. I held it down a little on the spins because there seemed to be a lot of movement of the drum but it span through fine each time. The only blemish was that, at 13 mins. left, it added another two minutes, then sat for two minutes at the end doing nothing. Right now I’m attributing that to my having accidentally bumped it to another programme for a few seconds part-way through.

    This is all with the same load as when the F-03 error came up. There was one item in the load that was at least twice as heavy as the rest (big jeans) and the load was maybe a little under what I would usually wash. I can see how that could potentially make it impossible to get the balance right for a spin, though Indesit and consensus in here both point to an electrical/thermistor issue.

    When I took the top off I played around a little with what I thought (wrongly it seems) would be the thermistor (am I right in thinking now that the temperature is measured in the drum itself?). I removed and re-attached a couple of connections and generally had a poke around to see if anything was loose. I also twanged a couple of times at an odd-looking thick, black wire that sits between the drum and the wall of the appliance. The wire seemed to be sprung and was padded. I guessed it to be some sort of balance-detector? Is there a proper diagram around here of what all these bits actually are/do? 🙂

    Other that my accidentally fixing it by poking about my other theory is that the machine is able to get hot enough water from the hot water inlet just now and so doesn’t need to heat its own, which it may have had to yesterday when the fault occurred. Is this a plausible scenario? Could it ‘ignore’ a faulty heating element if it knew it could get 30C water from the inlet?

    Anyway, I have another 30-minute wash on right now with a bigger load so I’ll see how that behaves. Definitely some experiments to be done before calling out someone who actually knows what they’re doing. 🙂

    Thanks for the help.

    Chandy

    #172636
    Penguin45
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    Chandy,
    I have no wish to be rude to you, but please stop…… You obviously have no idea what you’re doing.

    We have answered your questions, and have not misdirected you at any point – you are not interpreting what you have been told correctly. The “thick wire” for instance is a rubber air hose, operating the pressure switch controlling the water level. The drum is indeed where the water temperature is detected, as outlined in a post above.

    I really don’t want to wake up to a post from Mrs Chandy saying you’ve poked one wire to many. You have a technically complex machine which even we in the trade struggle with from time to time, so please click the link in my signature and get some pro help.

    Regards,
    Penguin45.

    #172637
    Chandy
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    I was casting no aspersions on the advice given here, I was implying I was being misdirected by the fault code.

    I’ve never seen the inside of a machine before, and can find no good diagrams, so all I can do is to check for the obvious and try and deduce what things are from looking at them. I have no problem opening and checking things, especially on what seems quite a simple device. I have to say that, just because I don’t know what I am looking at and have to try and make deductions, does not make me an incompetent. It simply means I do not have the information to hand, hence why I asked the questions here.

    Clearly I have misinterpreted this forum as a help resource when it is more accurately a sales tool for service engineers?

    Chandy

    #172638
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    Incorrect Chandy.

    We are perfectly happy to help as has been shown here and in many, many other threads but there comes a point when enough is enough. We have to consider the safety of customers as well and, as Penguin says and by your own admission, you don’t know what you’re looking at.

    Is it sensible to advise someone to continue when they obviously don’t have the knowledge to do the job? The obvious answer is no.

    We cannot legally give you blow-by-blow instructions and, from your posts, you’d require photographs and technical information that isn’t available to us let alone someone not in the trade. In fact, for most appliances, the sort of information that you are requesting just isn’t available, period. Including for Indesit, which is why we get so many requests here on UKW for information on those products.

    So, without proper training, guidance, knowledge and experience you are highly unlikely to be able to repair this machine effectively on your own.

    As Penguin said, these newer Indesits/Aristons/Hotpoints are not well liked by the trade due to thier weird and wonderfull faults and we struggle with them, so expecting someone that has never seen the inside of a washer to repair is just silly.

    K.

    #172639
    Chandy
    Participant

    Re: Indesit evolution 1000 (we10) F-03 fault

    Hi kwatt,

    Saying that you’re -not legally allowed- to give the information changes the situation somewhat!!! I was not aware of that and this thread makes much more sense in light of that information, though it’s very strange to hear. What laws prevent you from giving such details when the information to do anything you like to a car is freely available? And much more likely to kill you if you do it wrong I would say!

    Cheers for the heads-up. I’ll do some more experiments to isolate the cause then probably use the Repairs@ section (very handy) here to find an engineer if needed.

    Thanks,

    Chandy

    #172640
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    There’s an EU Directive that says that, basically, if you injure or kill yourself on the strength of our advice then we can be held liable as we are not in a position to judge your level of technical competence and ability remotely. Other than that we really don’t want to see anyone using UKW possibly being put in harm’s way or “guessing” at a faulty part and incurring costs which you would not have had had you had a professional repair carried out.

    It’s a fine balancing act and we have to judge each person’s ability as best we can. The general rule being that if we say, “look at XXX part” and you can’t identify that on your own then the job is probably beyond your knowledge to do as we should not really have to explain to that level of detail. If we do then there is a chance that going any further could put you at risk.

    We’re not tryingto be obstructive in any way, just sensible.

    K.

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