Dodging CORGI regs to fix oven?

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as I understand it you must NOT disconnect a gas unoin that requires tools to reconnect i.e. if you need a spanner to shift it DONT !

wilf

p.s. I wonder if some of those gorgi gas fitters either understand or carry out electrical safety tests if they were to fit said motor?

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The “correct” answer is in the Gas Regs from 1994 onwards. To undertake “work” on a gas appliance you must be defined as competent to do so. Only persons that have undertaken an ACS in a particular classification can prove competence and be listed by CORGI as competent.
The action of disconnecting and reconnecting a bayonet is defined as a consumer action not covered by ACS or CORGI.

As an non Corgi engineer working on a dual fuel appliance you could come unstuck many ways e.g. Public Liability insurance – not covered if it comes to the crunch as you have undertaken “work” on a gas appliance without proven competence.
On top of the foregoing, where does it end – changing the ignition electrodes, ignition generators, indeed most of the work on a dual fuel range does not involve disturbing the gas pipework – but are you sure that the cooker is 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} safe when you leave it. Is the injector firing up the burner venturi correctly after removing and refitting the hob top and is the aeration correct?
There are many similarities where gas pipework is not disturbed but would you consider changing a solenoid coil on a gas boiler without considering the risks to the client or your business. Even the action of changing a simple thermocouple can be hazardous as many pilots have atmospheric sensing built-in – fit the wrong T/C and they won’t work correctly and somebody could be overcome by CO.

I don’t believe in CORGI as they are a money making enterprise and are not doing what they were originally set up to be but I do believe that anyone working on a gas appliance – whether its gas only or dual fuel should have at least the basic training and equipment to verify that the appliance is 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} safe after working on it. I’ve simply seen too many cock-ups to think or believe otherwise.

Cookerfit.

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The HSE are re-visiting the regulations now in conjunction with CORGI, NAPIT, Uncle Tom Cobbley and yours truly. A lovely day in London yesterday stuck listening to a lot of talk about it all then in a downpour when I eventually escaped. 😕

The short of it is this…

There’s been a study done, when I get a minute I’ll transcribe the press release, by University College London, which seems to indicate that there could be up to 23{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of homes with a dicky gas appliance in it. Okay, no shock there when you see some of them and, also no shock, fires are the biggest culprit it would seem.

BUT…

You just knew there was going to be a “but” didn’t you… 😉

7{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of cookers were found to be dodgy as well on CO emissions, so looks like we’re going to get roped in on this one as well. Hence the reason I was there.

Personally it is my view that until controls are put in place over who can or cannot buy gas fittings and spares then there’s no hope of ever stamping out unregistered traders and dodgy DIY’ers and that just wont’ happen. B&Q, Homebase, Wolseley and Gawd knows who else would be screaming from the raffters about unfairness. Not only that, as a chap from the DTI said, if they try to legislate on this (which is still an option) it has to clear the EU as well as the UK and not be anti-competitive.

It’s massively complex.

So the “government” will likely be asking manufacturers to employ a voluntary scheme in the meantime to restrict the supply of spares to gas competent persons only. The stick is that if the don’t do it, then legislation may well follow to ensure that it does happen.

Have a nice day Rangemaster, GDHA, Hoover, Indesit etc. as it looks as if this will fly and, due to the press having a field day with about a quarter of Britain’s homes having a potentially lethal appliance in the house, I doubt you’ll have little option but to comply.

Thing is I asked, who’s going to fix them?

Now if that’s the short version you can imagine how much my head hurt last night. 😉

How the re-hash of the registration scheme will go, I dunno frankly. But, on the upside, the word “streamlining” was the buzz word of the day in relation to that (amongst other things) and they are trying to make ACS accreditation easier. Of course I’m fighting our little corner, hopefully I got somewhere.

K.

Re: Dodging CORGI regs to fix oven?

Just in case anyone wants to have a go!!! I know it’snot a cooker or oven but same principle applies.

http://tinyurl.com/qq7oc

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Martin, does that cooker not have a ‘stamped out’ circular section behind the motor that can be removed without even taking the back off and then replaced with some self tappers? Much the same way as microwaves have under the turntable motors.
Dont think I have ever come across a dual fuel cooker that even needs disconnecting at the bayonet (assuming the pipe is long enough) yet alone anywhere else, to change a fan motor.