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November 10, 2006 at 9:46 am #22438
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ParticipantHoover TS1300:
How do I get in between the drum and tub to remove objects causing damage to the drum.
So far I have removed the plastic clamp band holding the door seal, but I have a feeling I’m on the wrong track…
Is there a hatch somwhere to access the inside of the tub?November 10, 2006 at 11:06 am #194966Goatboy
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minus wrote:Is there a hatch somwhere to access the inside of the tub?
😆
I wish there was!
If you can’t get the object out through one of the existing holes, then the whole tub will have to be removed and split 😕
I’m not sure which tub your machine has though, because I can’t find model – TS1300
Power off before doing anything, of course :zap:
November 10, 2006 at 12:30 pm #194967Martin
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Goatboy wrote:because I can’t find model – TS1300
Minus comes from Sweden 😉
November 10, 2006 at 1:52 pm #194968minus
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Thanks guys – yes from Sweden – whatever that makes me….a chef in the Muppet Show maybe.
The machine has an inscription “Time Saver 1300”. I suppose that is the official model description. Maybe 3 – 4 years old.
I have tried yo catch a bra wire with pair of tweezers, but it’s hard to get deep enough through the gap between the drum and the tub – even whilst bending them apart with a screwdriver. Don’t want to bend too hard.
There is also some other unidentifable metallic object down there that probably has damaged the drum here and there. I would like to make a good inspection of the whole tub, to see there are now other damages.
So – the only way in is to disassemble the whole machine? Split the tub?- is that easy – just a few screws or a dozen other parts to remove first?Where to start?
November 10, 2006 at 1:56 pm #194969Goatboy
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minus wrote:Thanks guys – yes from Sweden – whatever that makes me….a chef in the Muppet Show maybe.
🙂
It means that I don’t know which model you have, so I can’t really advise on how to split the tub 😕
But I can tell you that the tub will have a be removed from the cabinet so, yes, a dozen parts will have to be removed from the tub and it’s a big job!
November 10, 2006 at 2:24 pm #194970minus
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Ok – thank you for your time and concern.
I will try to find a way around the problem. Maybe turning the machine with the front down over a couple of chairs. Hopfully the loose parts will drop down enough for me to grab them with pliers.
Otherwise I leave it as it is and hope for the best – if not, a new machine makes the world spin around just a little bit more. Won’t give up until I find one with a hatch in the tub though.Bye and thank UK
November 10, 2006 at 3:20 pm #194971Martin
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If the machine very likely has a plastic outer tub you where can either extract the foreign object through the sump hose outlet. Even easier than that requires removing the heating element out and fishing through the heater aperture. The only problem with that is very seldom can you refit the heater again as the heater seal distorts. Therefore a new heater will be required before attempting that method.
The plastic outer drums are see through if you place a high power torch underneath the machine, then open the door and peer inside to see the problem very clearly indeed! 😉
November 10, 2006 at 3:47 pm #194972minus
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Never thought of the possibility the tub could be in plastic. I’m quite sure it is ss, but I will check. Have to get my torch back from my neighboor first.
Either way, my weekend is the “goin’ fishin'” kind.Do you know of any machine with a rincing hatch in the tub?
HAve a nice weekend!
November 11, 2006 at 12:48 am #194973Penguin45
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minus wrote:Do you know of any machine with a rincing hatch in the tub?
Many years ago, the Zerowatt (I think) machines had a spring-loaded panel in the inner drum, which lined up over the sump hose to allow you to clear blockages. Otherwise, the Whirlpool 40cm horizontal top loader always had a removable bottom drum paddle to let you look for lost items. Don’t think any body else tried to help.
Regards,
Penguin45.November 11, 2006 at 8:40 am #194974Martin
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Penguin45 wrote: Don’t think any body else tried to help.
In a far away town (Liverpool in fact) long, long ago, was born the English Electric Liberator Automatic (circa 1968) with an access hatch. It was actually put there to allow for heater replacement but very handy for removing odd coins, bra wires and (in those dark days) ladies foundation garmet supports….oh yes! 😉
November 11, 2006 at 9:29 pm #194975Trilobite
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Martin wrote:
Penguin45 wrote:
Don’t think any body else tried to help.In a far away town (Liverpool in fact) long, long ago, was born the English Electric Liberator Automatic (circa 1968) with an access hatch. It was actually put there to allow for heater replacement but very handy for removing odd coins, bra wires and (in those dark days) ladies foundation garmet supports….oh yes! 😉
Would that have been a Hotpoint by another name?
November 11, 2006 at 9:50 pm #194976Penguin45
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GEC aquired Hotpoint in 1967 and English Electric in 1968, so probably still a separate product line.
Penguin45.
November 11, 2006 at 10:01 pm #194977Trilobite
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Thanks. It’s quite alarming how a few companies have gained control of the vast range of manufacturers. Now the models are virtually all clones.
November 12, 2006 at 7:05 pm #194978iadom
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The earliest English Electric Liberator Martin refers to was made long before GEC got their grubby paws on English Electric, or Hotpoint for that matter. The early Liberators had no electronics but were built like the proverbial brick toilet. Make modern day Meile machines look flimsy. If you could do a bearing change on a Liberator you could tackle anything.
The first models were in fact semi automatic, you had a motor that ran at one set speed, in one direction only. A timer that advanced after you had manually cancelled the heater. When you wanted to drain you pulled the first lever over, via a cable this lifted the pump pulley into contact with a large rubber pulley on the motor to drive the pump. When it had emptied you heaved over the other lever which again through a cable pulled the drum pulley which was in two halves closer together, forcing the belt to the outer edge of the pulley and reaching the superfast spin speed of about 450 RPM. A similar pulley drive was used on Philips top loaders with ball bearings inside that forced the pulley together to squeeze the belt. Also some early Zanussi machines used a similar drive pulley. The later Liberators, ran in both directions and used massive solenoids to achieve the same result.
The last Liberators had electronic controls, still built like tanks. One pre electronic model used a huge Italian motor called a Biglino, a monster of a motor, large alloy cast body with vanes like an Ariel Square Four cylinder block. The motor never failed but it was that heavy that it occasionally ripped the support brackets off the drums, two capacitors stuck on it the size of large tins of baked beans.
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