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G’day, i have an Ariston Margherita 2000 which is only 3 years young. The bearings were replaced after 18 months of normal use. Well the warranty has just expired an suprise suprise they’ve gone again!. Thought i’d have a go myself this time as i don’t reckon it was repaired correctly in the first place. I have the bearing kit and seal but i can’t get the spider off the shaft. I’ve removed the 8 retaining bolts that hold it to the drum but it wont budge. I’ve even tried a piece of wood and a hammer. Does the spider just pull off or is there something i’ve missed. Could the bearings have got so hot that they’ve welded themselves to the spider. Ta very much.
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stubby wrote:Does the spider just pull off or is there something i’ve missed. Could the bearings have got so hot that they’ve welded themselves to the spider. Ta very much.
The spider has a small wedge between the spider arm and the s/steel tub that must be removed first. Tapping the spider arm slightly clockwise first will release the wedge. Having said that I’m sure you will find that the inner bearing race will have welded itself to the the drum shaft, rendering any attempt to repair and replace a worthless exercise. 🙁
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After you have removed the bolts that secure the spider to the drum, get a bearing puller and use it to pull off the spider. Once pulled off place the spider on bricks and drive out the bearings with a suttable implement.. Don’t scrap it because of the bearings!. It shouldn’t take more than 30 minutes to do. 😆
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Sounds similar to my Ariston A1535UK. I replaced the bearings. Found that it was difficult to remove the bearings and I slightly damaged the seals on the new ones banging them into the spider. I wondered if I should have heated the spider up and frozen the bearings to make fitting easier. Anyone tried this?
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Like most ‘experts’ 😉 we have special tools for removing and refitting bearings, no need to heat up or freeze anything when you have the right ‘tackle’ and the knowledge and experience to know how to use it.
Jim.
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discount what that last poster wrote, (note for you! why bother posting if you don’t want to help people?)
If the new bearings are badly damaged then discard them. Look in the yellow pages and find a bearing supplier close to you, both bearings shouldn’t cost you more then £10.00. get the type with the rubber seal they will last a lot longer.
No need to heat the spider but make sure the inside faces of the spider where the bearings sit are clean, use some emery cloth to to remove any imperfections. Place the spider on blocks and use the old bearings to drive in the new ones, only strike the very outside rim of the bearing and never the bearing seal. Make sure you don’t get the old bearing, the drum side one, stuck in the bearing aperture when you strike it, check after each strike to see if its still free, when its fully home you will hear the change in sound as it hits the bearing stop. Check that your drum seal is ok and then reassemble the machine
Remember on reassembly to use locking compound to stop any of the bolts on the spider and pulley from shaking lose.
I wont patronize you by saying the usual thing on here of ” Remember to disconnect the appliance from the mains!”
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big of you that, isnt it
just recently, thees been some very maverick people posting in here
these people dont do it to patronise anybody, they do it because they like to offer advice and help people
i mean, is it really necessary to try and bring someones professionalism into disrepute?
Ive been repairing appliances 20 years now, and have tools i have found helpful to me in my day to day routine
Ive fitted more bearing kits than most, and ive never used locking compound on any bolts after refitting, and ive never ever found it necessary to add heat/cold to assist my repair
u made no reference to the fact that the bearings could have damaged the shaft, or the copper ring that completes the seal
oh no, u went straight for the kill, didnt you?
we always advise unplugging appliances, its something easily done, yet many forget.. none of us want serious injury or possible death on our conscience
its common sense, not patronising
please play fair, its a friendly and helpful forum, please try and keep it that way
thank you
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mr_j_bond wrote:discount what that last poster wrote, (note for you! why bother posting if you don’t want to help people?)
I wont patronize you by saying the usual thing on here of ” Remember to disconnect the appliance from the mains!”
Ah but I do, and I put my 38 years of experience into that, how long have you been in the trade. ❓
If you read the post I commented on properly rather than jumping in with your rude and unnecessary comments you will see that I was answering the previous posters question precisely, which was ‘should I have heated the spider up and frozen the bearings to make fitting easier’
As for the warnings to unplug the machine, unfortunately not every member of the general public is a clever as you obviously are :rolls: . We have to consider safety at all times, it is not patronising, it is just good old fashioned ‘common sense’Jim.
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mr_j_bond wrote:Check that your drum seal is ok
Change it……. why do you think the bearings failed in the first place? It’s there to stop the water getting in.
Ah, there’s nothing like a holistic understanding of the job you’re undertaking…………
Penguin45.
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mr_j_bond wrote: (note for you! why bother posting if you don’t want to help people?)
Excuse me if Im wrong but hasn’t iadom clocked up 4500+ posts 😕
That volume of posting is surely not from a time served professional engineer with 30yr+ experience whom doesn’t want to help someone. Go figure and get facts before you rudely spout forth garbage about anybody on this site again.Thanks for your time
Greg
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“play fair, its a friendly and helpful forum”
Really? So why did you start your post to me with the words “Big of you that. Isnt it” ? and why did you reply to the poster in such an arrogant and dismissive way?
(kwatt edited out the personal attacks and spurious comments – do not behave in this manner on this forum, it is unacceptable)
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That’s enough.
You may feel that your outburst is appropriate, I do not and some of your remarks are factually incorrect.
No more ranting please from anyone in this thread.
K.
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I replied to a question of a poster that was not answered correctly by another. When I corrected him he didnt like it and started to be abusive, I defended myself.
care to elaborate on which facts?
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mr_j_bond wrote:care to elaborate on which facts?
No.
I already said that this was enough.
K.
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OK, forgetting the outbursts, I found the new bearing very very hard to push in. Can’t now remember exactly how I did it but after initially forcing it in with a flat face and hammer I may have used a drift punch progressively around the outer edge to finish it off; punch slipped off once or twice and distorted the seal. As the damage was not too bad I am hoping it will last well. I don’t need to change it again immediately.
The suggestion to use the old bearing as a ‘pusher’ seems good but I am still not convinced that this would have made it easier to push and how do you kept it centralised relative to the other bearing until it goes into the housing? Heat/cooling it the official mechanical engineering approach (I am one of these, albeit not washing machine expert).
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