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I have a Diplomat (APM8512-1) washing machine which will not spin and the inlet values are switching on and off (hot water, roughly every second). It is just out of warranty! I can drain the water, the filter is clear and brushes on the motor seem good. I have put it down to the control module (546021400). Has anyone had a similiar fault or believe there is another fault to blame ? Any advice welcome.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Faulty water level switch can cause similar symptoms.
Power off before touching anything.
Penguin45.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Hello Folks,
I was just wondering if this had a happy ending ? I know this post is from a year or so ago, but I have just experienced exactly the same symptoms with a Diplomat APM 8513 – very similar to the one here.
I initially thought it was the pressure switch and set about checking the rubber tube but it seemed clear. A blow down the tube activated the switch and with the power off the Fluke measured continuity with pressure applied.
Is the switch OK ? Certainly seems so – although intrigued by the comments about the switch internals possibly failing I read elsewhere also from the keyboard of Penquin 45 I think.
With the inlet solenoid valves pulsing on and off the water level eventually gets to where it should be and I can hear the heating element come on – so to me it suggests the switch is OK. I even tried with the switch tube disconnected and the pulsing happened again.
The sequence does not carry on to get the wash cycle started and even with the temperature set to 0 it seems that the heating element is coming on.
I can manually move the cycle control round to drain and the pump does it’s stuff and empties the machine.
Sound like a control board problem then ?
Any suggestions greatfully received – thanks in advance – and if NTT reads this after all this time, I’m sure you have an answer.
Cheers
Bob.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Hi
Its a control module fault , have changed a few under guarantee. Just change module and all will be well.
Mike
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the speedy response.I shall get a replacement board then as suggested.
As you can probably guess this one is not long out of guarantee, but long enough all the same.
Thanks again – I’ll repost with the results.
Cheers
Bob.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
OK then, not quite the success post yet.
I ordered the new module and still have some confusion over the part number – it has arrived but I have not fitted it yet.
I ordered the part based on the sticker on the front of the machine – probably not the best thing to do, and now I think I have been saved by the picker/packer sending out the ‘other’ module.
There are 2 stickers on the front of the machine.
One shows the serial number and states the model is APM-8513.
The other one shows the model as Diplomat APM 8512 and ‘Warning this appliance uses different parts’ and lists several part numbers including the Electronic module as 546021400.
I ordered the part as 546021400, however the part that has arrived is 546021401J 0106 on the module itself. The box says 546021401.
I have now checked the old module in the machine (Probably what I should have done in the first place) and it has the part number 546021401 0358.
I guess then that the stickers on the front of the machine are to be taken with a pinch of salt and I should go with the number on the module itself.
However if someone could clear up the mystery – 01 or 00 for what looks like an APM-8513 ?
I have e-mailed UKWhitegoods spares department as well as this post
Hope that all makes sense.
Thanks
Bob.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
A quick update !
Had a very quick reply from the spares department that I thought I would share.
“Hi Bob,
546021401 is a direct replacement for 546021400
Regards
Dave.”
So looks like I’m home and dry, or home and washing again – I hope 🙂
Will report again after fitting.
Cheers All
Bob.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
im no expert but i think
the apm8513 1200 spin will use the module ending in 1400 they been in market for only 2 years ish
apm8512 1200 spin will use module ending in 201 they can be many years old mark 01/ 02 will make no diffrence normally .
the first 4 numbers on ya serial number will give u year like 2004 ……..
normally if the machine that uses module ending in 1400 u will have a sticker over the old detail sticker stating this reqiures module number
motor number
and another 2/3 parts
at very bottom front of machine
the 401 number i not heared of before they do update there nunmbers but i got a new 1400 module few days ago and was same number if we going by extracare part numbers on the boxes hope this helps and good luckRe: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Nice idea, but no…… 😀
Just production parts supercessions.
Penguin45.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Hi folks,
Just like to let everybody know that the new control module 546021401 is now fitted to my APM-8513 and so far it’s 😀 all round.
Wife is now happy.
Done 3 wash loads today and all working well.Would like to say thankyou to all those who replied to my call for help.
Regards
Bob.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Well sadly it did not last long. 🙁
We have just returned from a 2 week holiday and a week before we went away it all went wrong again – exactly the same symptoms as I described above.
It is hard to know why a new board would go wrong in exactly the same way as the original.
We did not have enough time to do much about it before we went on holiday and left our daughter at home to wash by hand and use a machine where she works.
Since we have been back the Missus has caught up with the holiday wash by hand and is pretty much demanding a new machine and who can blame her.
Although we like the built in machine with the kitchen unit doors hiding it away, an ISE 5 is looking very attractive with the 5 year guarantee and impressive reports etc. I just need to check local suppliers and support as well as delivery times.
Am I doing the right thing to give up on this Diplomat ? Think it might be the right thing to do, going on the reports about the ISE 5.
Or does anybody think different ?
Regards
Bob.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Oh dear.
Your machine comes from the “Other” Merloni company. Same shoddy stuff though. In UK terms, you’ve got a Servis – budget product; oversensitive, fragile electronics – just poor, really.
Earth leakage through the heater or/and the motor will throw the board. A slack drive belt will stop it spinning, as will the touchy out of balance circuit.
If you think you can live without the decor door, the ISE5 is a very nice machine – recently, I have been selling them as fast as I can get my hands on them. It is disturbingly quiet, AAA rated, the warranty is excellent and (so far) I have had no problems at all, from a repairers perspective.
If you’re anywhere near Leeds, I’ll supply one with the greatest of pleasure. 😀
Penguin45.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately we’re nowhere near Leeds, but I’m off to have a chat with a local supplier tomorrow.
I’m sure it will be a worthy purchase. Whilst the ISE 10 is tempting and the economics over 10 years make sense, it’s just a few too many pennies at the moment, so the 5 it will be. (Plus the fact that a 70 odd kg machine might just fall through the floor 😀 ).
Let’s hope the delivery time will be OK.
Regards
Bob.
Re: Diplomat APM8512-1 – Fault
Now there’s a funny thing – forgot I had an account as Beerdrinker as well – Oops, hope that does not break any forum rules. Perhaps I should cancel the Beerdrinker one.
Anyway it was me replying above.
Thanks once more Penquin 45, shame I can’t order from you, but we really are too far away.
Regards
Bob.
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