Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

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  • #29451
    steveowen100
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    Hi Folks

    Margherita 2000 AWD12S Advantage
    Reading through the forums this seems to be a common fault, Program dial spinning. Fault Light is flashing 8 times – stops then 8 etc

    Question is, looking at the forums the main fault seems to be a block or a Faulty drain pump. I have stripped all the pipes away from the machine and there is nothing blocked, the pump seems to be working ( can be heard spinning)

    The problem is strange, if i select a wash the dial spins, if i select program 8 (half hour wash) it works, i can then select any wash program and it will work, however if i leave it sitting to long it will not.

    program 8 is now not working, so i cannot select any wash, it fills, the drum turns for a few minutes then dial does its usual trick…….

    I understand it could be the drain pump or the pressure switch but does the poblem sound like it could be anything else?

    I need to sort it ASAP is it worth a gamble for me to replace the pressure switch and drain pump or am i throwing my money away.

    Is there a way to isolate the problem ? if not it looks like a call to an engineer and i can see pound signs spinning past my eyes!!!

    cheers folks … help !!

    #223119
    aqualectric
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    If it’s filling, then a few minutes later it aborts the cycle, the heater may be faulty or not detected. Possibly broken thermistor wiring (even on the drier t’stor).
    Now – you either go and buy all the bits you hope will fix it – or call someone who can put their finger on it straight away. You still have the option to say “No” to the repair. BUT – if you buy the parts – you are commited to keep them. Guesswork is expensive and dangerous. An engineer will just charge for what he fits to effect a repair.
    No contest!! The hype about domestic appliance repair charges are largely just that – hype. (keeps Calgon in business though 😉 ). In this case, it is money well spent IMO.
    Power off if you continue looking.

    Hope that helps,

    Steve.
    Aqualectric.

    #223120
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    If you use the search facility and type in ‘Eight AND flashes AND Indesit’ in exactly that format you will get some interesting and no doubt depressing reading.

    F08 is not a pump fault.

    Jim.

    #223121
    steveowen100
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    thanks for the replys guy

    quick scan of the forum shows :-

    Technically, it means that the heater relay on the computer board is not reponding. It can also be the heater, temperature circuit, dodgy wiring or any combination of these.


    What the worst case scenario cost wise, do i need an engineer or can i source the parts and fix myself.


    cheers !!!!

    #223122
    aqualectric
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    Engineer is the cheapest option IMHO.
    The only thing you can test is continuity of the heater. (Power off; of course!!). If the heater tests OK, then click Repairs@ banner to book an approved engineer in your area.
    That way you are going to know for sure with no risk to you – in the
    unecessary purchase of probably useless spares or personal harm. 😉

    HTH,

    Steve.
    Aqualectric.

    #223123
    steveowen100
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    Update…


    Engineer came today, quick check revealed a small leak between the dryer heater element casing and the condendser (i think) seems to be dripping onto the PCB

    Engineer said this may be causing the fault, hes put some sealent on the join told me to leave it 24hrs and to try it.

    charge £25.00

    H’es going to call back monday to see if its working, if not he’s going to remove the PCB to check for damage.

    sound plausable ?


    cheers

    #223124
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    Leaks from that area are a common cause of board failure. 😥

    Jim.

    #223125
    steveowen100
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    Thanks Jim


    If Nothing is blown on the board, do you think cureing the leak will remedy the problem, or is a new board iminent, engineer said £90.00/£100.00 for the board …. Fair Price ???


    cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #223126
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    You would be very lucky to get away without needing a PCB if it has had a leak onto it. That is a fair price for the board but you have to ask yourself is this ‘Indesit’ machine really worth it. 😥
    Jim.

    #223127
    steveowen100
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    Evening Folks

    I’m tearing my hair out with this Flaming machine, i called out an engineer on friday. As mentioned in my last post, he found a small leak between the heater casing and condenser box which was dripping above the PCB he put some sealent around the join and said to leave it for 24hrs and then try it and he would come back Monday. Saturday morning i tried the machine and the dial did its usual trick!!!!!

    Today the engineer came back had a fiddle around, he filled it put it on a spin cycle, it emptied and the he selected a program and it worked?

    I explained this usually happened once it had washed and emptied it would work all day long program after program, unless it was left any length of time between washes. He said this was a coincedence and if it was anything serious like a shot board the problem would be there constantly. He also said the heater sounded noisy/hissy like a kettle was his words and perhaps there was a problem there?.

    When he went i did a couple of washes fine…… this evening i’ve tried and the dial is spinning like a merry go round!!!! unless i choose wash eight then it’s works.

    can anybody explain the following :-

    1. Why wash eight (half hour wash) works every time
    2. Once wash eight has finished i can select another program and it will work happily.
    3. Once wash eight has finished if i leave it any length of time it will not work on another program setting… 1 through to 7 will not work
    4. If the board is damaged/Knackered with water splashes would’nt the fault be constant ?

    Before the dial spins the machine fills, on top of the dryer heater casing there is a relay/switch, engineer said it was a cooling fan ? …. this activates and almost sounds like a buzzer going off and when it does machine tries to empty and dial spins.


    sorry foks about the essay …….help !!!!!!!!!!


    cheers

    #223128
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    Wash 8 may be a cold wash so heater is not used. Even without the water ingress onto the board, your machine has one of the most unpredictable, unreliable PCB’s in use today, they can fail if the wind changes direction. It does sound as though your board is at fault.

    Did he do a resistance test on the heater?

    Jim.

    #223129
    Penguin45
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    I’m with Iadom here – if there is no logic to the fault, it’s always the board. Give it up and get something better.

    Regards,
    Penguin45.

    #223130
    steveowen100
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    Thanks for the reply Iadom and Penguin

    Enginner did’nt do a test on the heater, he just said it sounded noisy ?

    Question is…board sounds pricey £90/£100.00, is there anyway to test it so the fault can be isolated to this.

    If all else fails can the board be reconditioned or can i pick up a second hand unit…..is this false economy ?…..

    cheers fellas

    #223131
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    steveowen100 wrote:If all else fails can the board be reconditioned or can i pick up a second hand unit…..is this false economy ?…..

    The board can be sent to one of two repairers in the UK who can test and recon it, if you insist? But you’re in for a hiding for nothing with this machine, as my colleagues inferred earlier. 🙁

    The terminal connector plugs to the module are weak and prone to corrosion, vibration and water damage. So you could buy a brand new module and eeprom if you like, plug it in and it still will play up!

    Don’t tear out too much hair now over this or you might also need to buy a new rug? 😛

    #223132
    aqualectric
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000- How do i isolate this fault

    You can be assured that any secondhand boards you can find will all be u/s. Yes, they are that good!! Recon PCB is the only reasonable answer, but the machine, as my colleagues say, is at best, err….rubbish – so spend your money on a better new machine and put it down to experience.
    A piece of advice to avoid making the same mistake again – Ariston, Indes*it, Hotpoint and Creda are one and the same machine.
    You have been warned……… 😉

    Steve.

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