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August 8, 2007 at 11:55 am #29598
Hollow
ParticipantHello, hope this is ok, please tell me if not. I’m looking for feedback on an article I wrote recently. Would appreciate any feedback/criticism!
Article wrote:Old Washing Machines cost you money?
Is your washing machine old?
Then it may be costing you money, as the following recent report found:
“….in order to achieve the same washing performance as a modern machine does in a 40 °C wash, a 15-year-old washing machine must be operated in a 60 °C programme, and a 30-year-old one in a 90 °C programme (on average). By contrast, on average a 15-year-old washing machine requires approximately twice as much energy and water as a new one to achieve the same level of performance, and a 30-year-old washing machine about four times as much.”
SourceYour machine could be costing you money and using more energy than necessary, increasing your carbon footprint. But how can you make sure that buying a new machine will be a worthwhile investment, helping in your efforts to combat global warming?
One problem with buying a new washing machine can be that it only lasts 3-4 years; it is a common perception that older washing machines are of a higher build quality than the newer washing machines, results of a more disposable society. There is some element of truth to this, but the high quality builds are still available at higher prices.
However, buying a quality washing machine is complicated by the fact spending more money won’t necessarily mean you are getting a product with high build quality; brands tend to build washing machines to the same standard in their factories whatever their sale price. The differing prices relate to more features such as spin speed and drum size rather than hardiness.
So what to do if you are looking for a washing machine that’ll last more than 3-4 years? Washing machines are a very brand led sector; a good rule of thumb is to find which brands budget goods start at higher prices. Hopefully the higher the price the better build quality you can expect of that brand for all of their machines. You can also look for <a href="http://householdappliances.kelkoo.co.uk/c-146601-washing-machines-washer-dryers.html
” target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”>reviews of washing machines at online shopping comparison sites such as Kelkoo and Shopping.com.Currently the better quality brands seem to be AEG, Bosch and Siemens, whilst the lower quality brands seem to be Hoover, Hotpoint and Philco, but shop around and make your own mind up.
Looking to the future, a new design is coming out which may be able to cut down on the cost of detergent and the environmental costs of your washer.
An interesting new product coming out this summer in France is a detergent-less washing machine which supposedly could be better for the environment by not flushing soap down the drain; the washing machine from Wash20 works by ionizing water atoms into H+ and OH- which act as a detergent would in the water. If this catches on the machine could revolutionise washing machines in the same way Dyson
revolut-“ION”-ised vacuum cleaners.A good overall guide to washing machine use can be found here
August 8, 2007 at 12:27 pm #223772kwatt
KeymasterRe: Is your old washing machine costing you money?
Written for whom and what purpose?
If you want me to review it technically no problem, but probably a conversation best not had in an open and public forum. 😉
K.
August 8, 2007 at 12:48 pm #223773Alex
ParticipantRe: Is your old washing machine costing you money?
Hmmmm. Interesting post.
I notice the Wash20 is a French Hiaer machine. Mind boggles.
Correct me for being cynical, looks like sales blurb to me.
Alex
August 8, 2007 at 12:57 pm #223774don
ModeratorRe: Is your old washing machine costing you money?
Hollow wrote:Hello, hope this is ok, please tell me if not. I’m looking for feedback on an article I wrote recently. Would appreciate any feedback/criticism!
I see one of the links in your signature clicks you to washerhelp website. Are you writing this article for that site? Just curious to know 😉
Don
August 8, 2007 at 1:18 pm #223775Martin
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kwatt wrote:Written for whom and what purpose?
Total commercial gain, flog ’em on the green, energy saving claptrap. Their all at it these days, here’s no exception from Hollow. :rolls:
Here’s just one such example:-
Hollow wrote:Looking to the future, a new design is coming out which may be able to cut down on the cost of detergent and the environmental costs of your washer.
Yeah? Bring it on and it’ll go wrong sure enough! 🙁
But to be serious for one moment, the vast majority of the general public don’t give one jot about how good, reliable or energy saving their machine is until it goes wrong. When it does they blindly go out and buy like for like without researching the why’s and wherefor’s. They wouldn’t have a clue as to how much it’s costing them per wash? Would’nt give a monkeys either!
As for the Internet nerds, Joe Public under many different guises has ‘surfed the www’ and come up with the most amazingly bad conclusions based on wildly differing criteria. The lowest price for the best value, fastest spin and biggest load their only concern. Paint it green and tell them it was made from recycled Ford Mondeo’s in a factory in Bulgaria and costs just 4 pence per wash and someone will buy one no doubt. 😕
Just yet more sales poppycock……nothing more! 😈
August 8, 2007 at 2:00 pm #223776Hollow
ParticipantRe: Is your old washing machine costing you money?
I have to write a general article on washing machines for average laymen such as myself, who may be looking to replace their washing machine.
Please feel free to PM me if the comments aren’t appropriate for the open forum, I’m basically interested in proofreading from people who know what they’re talking about.
I only write about the Wash20 Machine since it seemed a new development in washing machines, I’m not affiliated with them, can’t speak French. 🙂
If it gets good feedback I may send it to the washerhelp website, the Kelkoo site, Shopping.com, DooYoo etc. and mostly include them to refer to my sources as I researched the article.
The feedback so far seems to think its a sales pitch for Wash20! Perhaps take out that link?
I do disagree that the majority of the general public do not care on how good, reliable or energy saving their machine is, its a factor that will get more and more important I believe, certainly with the next generation. There is already a green orientated website for web goods (Ethical Washing Machines?) which I found on the first page of Google whilst researching the article.
As for internet nerds, well maybe this article can help in their decision so they don’t just look for the cheapest, fastest spin and biggest load and actually get a machine that lasts!
August 8, 2007 at 2:17 pm #223777kwatt
KeymasterRe: Is your old washing machine costing you money?
Hi,
You’ve followed the party line from the manufacturers and, basically, a lot of it is utter rubbish. In short it takes at least two to two and a half years to offset the cost of production in carbon/emissions/energy use to produce a new washer, not including the transportation and power generation to make it or the cost in energy terms to manufacturer components not produced in that facility. That is in a state-of-the-art German facility, not a knock ’em out shop in China or Poland.
Then, add to that the cost to dispose, the transport to do that and the ultimate recycling.
Have a poke about the Advice and Help section, you’ll get a lot of info that will help you, for specifics then email me if you like.
The link on you signature suggest some sort of connection with Kelkoo which, the website you just gave a link to, seems to be in disguise. It also amazes me that a machine, like the ISE washing machine with all the ethical and environmental values doesn’t even get a mention there. Likely not because it’s not worthy, but rather because we don’t use an affiliate scheme to pay people like Kelkoo to sell it. An information monopoly? 😉
Yep, we’re a cynical bunch. 😆
K.
August 8, 2007 at 2:35 pm #223778Hollow
ParticipantRe: Is your old washing machine costing you money?
You’ve followed the party line from the manufacturers and, basically, a lot of it is utter rubbish. In short it takes at least two to two and a half years to offset the cost of production in carbon/emissions/energy use to produce a new washer, not including the transportation and power generation to make it or the cost in energy terms to manufacturer components not produced in that facility. That is in a state-of-the-art German facility, not a knock ’em out shop in China or Poland.
See thats the kind of feedback I was looking for; why I wanted to speak to the real experts rather than repeating a company line.
I’ve no idea if Ethical Websites is connected with Kelkoo at all! I agree they use the same website design and wouldn’t be surprised if they sold their website template to them or some such.
Thanks for the link to the ISE, with permission I’ll include it in the second draft, and a link to your esteemed pages to fight the information monopoly. 8)
And yes, you are a cynical bunch! Every link I include you think I’m making a sales pitch for! Well I admit its all true, I’m a spokesmen for the Dutch tourist board, come see our Giant Lego Man
🙂
August 8, 2007 at 2:40 pm #223779kwatt
KeymasterRe: Is your old washing machine costing you money?
No worries, the information is there for all to see and use, it’s whether people see that or the price ticket only and, sadly but all too often, it’s the latter as opposed to making the right choice.
K.
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