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October 25, 2007 at 5:49 pm #31683
iadom
ModeratorInteresting news article on the home page about a washing machine fire.
Dorset Fire and Rescue Service manager John Mullins said: “The washing machine had been overloaded and the resulting strain on the motor had caused it to literally ‘go bang.’ “Although we obviously send out the message not to overload your machines, full credit to the occupant of the flat who immediately turned off the electric and gas and called us out.”
How many motor ‘fires’ can anyone attribute to overloading? Failure to stop leaks or motors failing just because they do from time to time, but overloading. 😕
In my experience, even a completely jammed drum will result in belt failure long before a sound motor will go up in smoke.
Its a pity they never give the make of machine in these reports, it could be a known fault with a specific brand I suppose.
Jim.
October 25, 2007 at 6:22 pm #232071maltheviking
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In all my time I have only seen one front loader motor fire, I was called in to check it out after a local cowboy had fitted a 50p set of brushes to a Hotpoint. Now if you want to talk motor fires then go no further that the old Hotpoint T/L 😉 usually after the pump started leaking
October 25, 2007 at 6:28 pm #232072kwatt
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iadom wrote:How many motor ‘fires’ can anyone attribute to overloading?
None that I have ever heard of. Washing machine fires are virtually unheard of and I think this report may be a little premature on the part of the fire service.
Now, washer dryers… that’s a whole other kettle of black smoke.
K.
October 25, 2007 at 6:29 pm #232073Martin
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You are perhaps overlooking the induction motors that Philco, Servis and Merloni produced. They are famous for producing smoke and flame when overloaded. In fact I think Goatboy produced a photo of a burnt out motor and module a while back I think?
The old Bendix 7147a was a favourite for this, but that’s going back a bit now I agree, but nevertheless the same design, the same weakness. 😉
October 25, 2007 at 6:34 pm #232074kwatt
KeymasterAre there any of those left in captivity now?
The report didn’t say what machine it was or categorically whether it was a washer or washer dryer specifically. I’d suspect the latter.
K.
October 25, 2007 at 6:39 pm #232075Penguin45
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Martin wrote:In fact I think Goatboy produced a photo of a burnt out motor and module a while back
There:
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … _photo.phpChris.
October 25, 2007 at 6:44 pm #232076Martin
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Penguin45 wrote:There:
Ah thanks for that Chris. I was off the mark on Goatboys photo then as that was a brush motor machine. Still it just goes to show that fires are commonplace in machines no matter what….and overloading could be a what to bear in mind? 😉
October 25, 2007 at 6:57 pm #232077iadom
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Whilst overloading may have been a possible on old vee belt drive motors, I cannot see a modern, grooved poly belt outlasting a ‘good’ motor no matter how overloaded.
As for the top loader motors even a jammed pump rarely did for those as the overload kicked in, water leaks or sticking relays every time.
Jim.
October 25, 2007 at 7:34 pm #232078maltheviking
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Looked at a year old Hotpoint dryer yesterday, usual problems caused by the stretch belt drum collapsed etc. the inside of the dryer was absolutely chock full of lint, half a bin bag full!!!!. Customer was so shocked that she took a photo, which she is going to email me I’ll post it when it arrives.
How this machine never went up in flames I do not know, it’s only a matter of time before we will be reading some horror story caused by these machines 🙁
Hotpoint/Indesh!t must know about these by now there is enough written evidence on the subject on UKWG etc. their own engineers must be quaking in their shoes they see the same problems as we do 😥 I was working for them I would certainly let the management know I was concerned IN WRITINGOctober 25, 2007 at 8:08 pm #232079Martin
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maltheviking wrote:I was working for them I would certainly let the management know I was concerned IN WRITING
Ah! But don’t forget Mal, the longer Hotpoint/Indesit make this rubbish the longer they (and us) will be in a job….. 😉 😉 😉
October 25, 2007 at 9:09 pm #232080maltheviking
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Martin wrote:Ah! But don’t forget Mal, the longer Hotpoint/Indesit make this rubbish the longer they (and us) will be in a job….. 😉 😉 😉
Yea thats right Martin but I want to sleep at night.
October 25, 2007 at 9:36 pm #232081iadom
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maltheviking wrote:Looked at a year old Hotpoint dryer yesterday, usual problems caused by the stretch belt drum collapsed etc. the inside of the dryer was absolutely chock full of lint, half a bin bag full!!!!. Customer was so shocked that she took a photo, which she is going to email me I’ll post it when it arrives.
How this machine never went up in flames I do not know, it’s only a matter of time before we will be reading some horror story caused by these machines 🙁
Hotpoint/Indesh!t must know about these by now there is enough written evidence on the subject on UKWG etc. their own engineers must be quaking in their shoes they see the same problems as we do 😥 I was working for them I would certainly let the management know I was concerned IN WRITINGYou mean something like this Mal.
October 26, 2007 at 8:14 am #232082maltheviking
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Missed that one Jim 😳 If I get the photo you could use it to replace the one in that post, the drum was only visible on this one, a real horror
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