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I see on my monthly oracle that I receive from you dear people that there is a small mention about Indesit fitting Smart Card Readers to their appliance modules? – The mind truly boggles on this one, does this mean the dear purchaser of the said machine has to use a smartcard to operate the darn thing?
I already get rather knarked when I see people in my local supermarket/high street with swipe cards et all dangling around their necks…..(Whinge….Mutter…..Moan…..)
WQ
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No you wont need a smart card to opertae the machine, the smart card is for reprograming the new board (Arcadia Board). It is so far fitted to washing machines WIB range, new dishwashers some cooking platforms.In the end though Arcadia technology will be fitted to everything that Indesit produce.
Kev
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stripey wrote:Hi
No you wont need a smart card to opertae the machine, the smart card is for reprograming the new board (Arcadia Board). It is so far fitted to washing machines WIB range, new dishwashers some cooking platforms.In the end though Arcadia technology will be fitted to everything that Indesit produce.
Kev
Thanks for your reply.
Can I ask you will there be any benefit to the “consumer” for this technology or is simply yet another “tool” to stop the Independants from being able to service such machines? – Curious?WQ
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WhirlpoolQueen wrote:Can I ask you will there be any benefit to the “consumer” for this technology or is simply yet another “tool” to stop the Independants from being able to service such machines? – Curious?
Hi WQ,
I can’t see any benefit to the “consumer” really at all, unless there’s something I’m missing in it. In fact, if anything, I’d have to think it was the opposite and is actually detrimental as you would (as I understand it) no longer be able to buy a pre-programmed module, you get a blank and have to program it and to do so you obviously need the kit for that. I’m sure it doesn’t take much to realise that most people wouldn’t have the programmer etc. or would want to buy one.
Apparently you also need the correct smart card for the model or it won’t work.
So you can see it’s quite a complex system really and, instead of ordering one part number for a module change you have to order two.
I’m sure you can draw your own conclusions. 😉
K.
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Thank you Kwatt for your post.
I confess I really don’t see the point in why an appliance should need a smartcard/reader unless of course I am missing something?…..Perhaps the plan is that you can watch SKY tv on your washer? LOL!
Whose to say the next step will be connecting your appliance to the Internet so that your number of washes & your smalls can be remotely monitored? Spooky!!Then again one wonders perhaps if by accident you upset the man from Merloni (by not putting enough Sugar in his Coffee) that he then puts a card in your machine to shut it down????????
Oh God, how soon before other makers catch on to such technology……..Big Brother coming soon to a kitchen near you!
Frightened – WQ 😯
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With “arcadia” when you replace a PCB it will come out blank ie. not programed. You then need a smart card reader to connect to the PCB but in order to program it you need a card. This is about the size of a credit card.
The card is machine specific and it is a one shot card which means that if for any reason it does not downlod correctly you will need to but a new card.
I can see 2 reasons for Indesit doing this.
1. It saves them money as they have done away with an EPROM there engineers can proram it using MEMWRITER.
2. For third part engineers there is a source of income in buying the cards, you only need one reader to connect to the machines.
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Whose to say the next step will be connecting your appliance to the Internet so that your number of washes & your smalls can be remotely monitored? Spooky
That has bee trialed already using a dial up connection the aim being to be proactive in fault resoloution.
BTW everytime an Indesit engineer connects his lap top to a washing machine it downloads what washes have been used. Hence the moon was born with the most common wash functions on it. Big Brother is watching……..
a liittle of topic, but it showes where technology is going
http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/produc … GRG227STBA
lol, there is a model up from this too,a nd that has a barcode reader on the front and a broadband connection
ive seen one.. and you know what? yep, in the morning.. message on the screen..’good morning mr xxx, your milk will be out of date today, and if you fancy a bite to eat, can we suggest…’ and then goes on to supply you with recipes downloaded from the net with all the ingredients it knows are in your fridge
of course you have to scan them as you put them in, or it doesnt work well…
and, of course, the machine will email the manufacturer and book a service call should a fault develop, and yes they will ring you at work , to confirm this is a suitable date for youtechnology is fantastic, lets just hope it doesnt break down huh
as for the arcadia boards, theyre already out there
its a costing thing, as always.. all the eproms and boards will vanish by late 2008
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LG, Samsung and Whirlpool have been going down that road for a while now Helo and others have dabbled with it trying to build some value back into appliances. I wrote about it a while ago and I can’t believe I wrote this five years ago!
Being involved in home automation I know that “normal” people just aren’t interested in this sort of thing, it is a very niche market. Young guys generally think it’s cool, busy mothers think it’s a waste of space and they’ve no time to scan in items of food, they don’t see the point. And, after that you have to get over the fact that these sorts of appliances are far more expensive, getting someone to pay a lot more for something that they don’t see the point of is, at best, difficult.
Even just the LCD in the door isn’t enough, you can buy a simple LCD TV and an LG fridge for considerably less without restriction on where the TV is placed.
For internet, anyone that would have the cash to buy one of these will have laptop and, most probably, several PC’s so I fail to see the attraction there.
In other words it’s a gimmick IMO. One of those, “look how clever we are” products that is, ultimately, pointless.
Just my opinion of course.
K.
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I like the sound of an Internet fridge, but how would it work to order things, obviously you’d need to have a supermarket ordering service and a debit or credit card on the system, so how would it get around that? Also would it have anti-virus and firewall, to prevent Nigerian scammers from hacking your credit card, so they can buy something for their son in Portugal or something.
if we were to have Internet enabled appliances, what would stop them from being remotely hacked into, and what would stop them from coming down with viruses?
ermm, im not sure about Internet linked appliances unless the manufacturers really have it sussed.
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