Late model servis burning of module

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  • #37646
    neptune
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    I have had at least 3 cases recently of late model servis machines failing due to burnt modules. Dont have model numbers to hand, but this seems to apply to machines with the module at the the bottom of the machine, and those with the module at the top. The burning is always at one corner of the board where a multiway connecter is situated, and the connecter block is usually burned partly as well as the board. there is usually track damage as well. Has anyone else seen this, and is this caused by module failure or some external cause?

    #255923
    robbo1973
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    Re: Late model servis burning of module

    it is recomended when changing the board to fit individual spade connectors very common fault.

    #255924
    electrofix
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    Re: Late model servis burning of module

    had this fault on many occasions to me is seem like the full power of the machine is going through the connectors and the pcb. when i repair these i joint the cables together off the board so the power bypasses connections

    another case of bad design

    Dave

    #255925
    neptune
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    Re: Late model servis burning of module

    Many thanks for replies.
    Electrofix, could you possibly give more specific details of your suggested modification please, for instance how many wires are involved? Thanks in advance. Got another one tomorrow wiyh the same symptoms….

    #255926
    Penguin45
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    Re: Late model servis burning of module

    Chop the plug off and fit proper AMP tags is what he’s saying – and don’t use those horrible red and blue plastic jobbies. Fine for 12vDC applications, rubbish in washers – vibration properties are bad.

    Chris.

    #255927
    neptune
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    Re: Late model servis burning of module

    Thanks again for replies. The one I went to today had the same problem.
    I replaced the plug with seperate connectors, and also resoldered several tags, and we had lift-off!

    #255928
    Seamy
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    Re: Late model servis burning of module

    Any recommendation for AMP connectors, part num’s etc, i find a lot of the red & blue ones failing also.

    #255929
    electrofix
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    Re: Late model servis burning of module

    i use a nickel plated steel amp tag with a special crimp tool that rolls the steel over

    this type of crimp was sold to me for electric cookers and gives a very secure tight fit on the connector. it is a bare connector that will need a plastic sleeve if you need insulation both crimps and tool made by utilux i get my supplies from empire cookers in manchester

    @ neptune

    the mod only involves about 4 wires if you look at the pcb you will see some of the tag join together on the print side of the board . these wires normally are the heavy wires that supply high currents so to keep the high current from going into the board and back out again leading to overhating and burn out join these wires off the board and make 1 wire connection to one of the connectors on the board

    hope this helps

    Dave

    #255930
    neptune
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    Re: Late model servis burning of module


    @electrofix
    . Thanks for the details, I get the picture now.

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