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  • #38383
    maltheviking
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    Hotpoint 1850 date code 60 (Dec 1974)

    I had the pleasure of repairing this today 34 years old and still going 🙂 Sadly I can remember my way around them 😉 Not an eeprom in sight, just that PMC thingy


    Anyone match this then ? 😉

    #258675
    Martin114
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    it’s been a long time since I have seen an 1850 but I thought the PMC died with the 1600. Probably my memory fading though.

    #258676
    iadom
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    PMC was definitely fitted to all of the 1850 range. The very early 1850’s had a triple micro switch setup on the door mechanism. The idea was a novel way to stop the machine if the door was opened during the spin cycle. The three switches had to make or break in an exact sequence, if memory serves the switch furthest from the cabinet front had to be ‘ first to make, last to break’. What this did was to route the power that the motor as an alternator was generating back through the motor itself using the heating element as a whacking big resistor in the circuit.

    It was one quick way to test if the heater was OC. Set the machine to spin, let it reach full speed (800 rpm) then turn quickly to off and open the door. If all was well you got a lovely ‘Screech’ as the dynamic braking kicked in as the current was fed back through the motor. The only problem was that the micro switches went out of sync so easily that the PMC ( power micro circuit ) used to go off with a loud bang on many occasions.

    This system was soon done away with and the single micro switch and pecker mechanism door interlock came into being.

    Jim.

    #258677
    iadom
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    As a supplementary question, can anyone tell me what the ‘flying leads’ were and why they were introduced on late model 1850’s. 🙂

    Jim.

    #258678
    maltheviking
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    iadom wrote:As a supplementary question, can anyone tell me what the ‘flying leads’ were and why they were introduced on late model 1850’s. 🙂

    Jim.Flying leads? where are they Jim

    #258679
    iadom
    Moderator

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    I’ll tell you later if nobody else gets the answer. 😉

    Jim.

    #258680
    maltheviking
    Participant

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    Nowt to do with replacement motor?, DC motor had flying tacho leads AC one had em thru motor plug 😉

    #258681
    iadom
    Moderator

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    The AC Delco DC motor was only used on the 1600/1830 machines.

    All the early 1850’s used the GEC produced DC motor. The original motor plug was a round plug with small round pins just like the earlier 1600 type. A huge amount of OOB calls due to poor motor plug contact resulted in the flying lead solution.

    It was as you say two ‘extra’ leads from the tacho that supplemented the two in the motor wiring harness. These two wires plugged directly onto two small tags on top of the horizontally mounted PCB behind the facia.

    Eventually they reverted to the large rectangular motor plug with full size AMP tags and the base mounted module and the AC motor.

    Jim.

    #258682
    maltheviking
    Participant

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    So have I won a coconut then Jim? 😆

    #258683
    iadom
    Moderator

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    No, you will have to make due with my qualified admiration. 😆

    Jim.

    #258684
    maltheviking
    Participant

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    Some quiz but thanks 😉

    #258685
    anthonyfoale
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    i just found a paper manual for this machine issue 4 june 1985 i will have to keep it now if these machines are still alive lol

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