Petrol Is Cheaper?

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  • #38631
    kwatt
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    I had a conversation the other day with a petrolhead which went down the old price of fuel route as expected but, the interesting thing was, that someone has now worked out that due to the disparity between petrol and diesel that it is now cheaper to run a petrol car.

    Has anyone found evidence of this?

    TBH it doesn’t surprise me as, way back over a decade ago when diesel was actually cheaper than petrol (remember that!) we worked out that unless a van was covering more than 18K miles per year that petrol was cheaper. The additional servicing costs at that time killed diesel.

    LPG even better.

    Food for thought if you’re thinking on diesel car or van.

    And, in the same vein, having contacts in the car industry, apparently large cars are taking an absolute pounding on used values. If you have anything bigger than a 2l Mondeo get yourself prepared for a MASSIVE drop in value.

    One poor dude bought a pretend Porsche jeep thing (Chilli I think ;)) and it lost over 25K since registration in April. This is not good.

    Rumours are rife in the car industry that, if the current tax plans go through, then the band E or whatever it is these days, cars and vans will cost about £900 a year just to tax never mind fuel and run.

    Of course this is just peachy if you have shares in an oil company.

    But never mind eh, we can all buy a Prius and save the planet by using a car that has batteries with chemicals in it, mined in Canada mostly, shipped to China for the batteries to be made then on to Japan where the car is assembled and back to Blighty for us to get 65mpg from. Or we can buy a milk float and have the same battery problem but create more carbon using electricity generated from mainly coal and gas powered power stations.

    But, it’s not a political thing, it’s all about saving the planet and reducing our carbon footprint.

    Might have worked out better if someone had actually thought about it. :rolls:

    K/

    #259479
    aqualectric
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    Re: Petrol Is Cheaper?

    Saddest bit of that whole issue is that the average Joe will see this environmental policy as a vote winner rather than the white elephant is so clearly is.
    IIRC, petrol was the devil incarnate 15 years ago; petrol was the No 1 polluter……petrol would give all of us cancer…..so a mass exodus to diesel cars was the result. Now, whether it was just economics or the concern for climate change that made the diesel desirable but the mantra at the time helped to alter the public perception.
    Now you have a large percentage of diesel cars on the road you have a captive audience that you can tax to death. We have four children, so we are really stuck whatever we do. ATM, we have a diesel Landrover Discovery with seven seats which returns good MPG on a 2.5L engine. Virtually all the seven seat cars fall in the higher pollution brackets so renewing our vehicle is pointless. The only solace we have is that the outrageous VED tax is less than what we would lose if we sold the car on.
    The heavy taxing of these vehicles will just mean that the rich will eventually be the only ones that will be able drive them. Well thought out policies as usual!!
    But then if I was Gordon Brown I wouldn’t be called on to justify my 5 seater Range Rover Autobiography with a 4.2 supercharged engine in the centre of London’s low emission zone because…..it’s petrol. 😉

    Or I could buy a Smart car and make 3 trips……why didn’t I think of that before? :rolls:

    Steve.

    #259480
    GPservice
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    Re: Petrol Is Cheaper?

    Hi everyone about 6 mnths ago now i purchased a vauxhall Combo LPG van, at the time i was a bit sceptical about LPG but it really makes a difference the economy is not quite as good as running on petrol, but LPG is about 61p a litre, not sure how many of you engineers use LPG vans but i would certainly reccomend it as an alternative to petrol/diesel.

    #259481
    Madmac
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    Re: Petrol Is Cheaper?

    Yep, its about half the price of Diesel. Tempting, but being a cynical old soul, i have a feeling Mr Darling would just jack the duty up if we all switched to it in large numbers.

    To be honest, id miss the torque of my chipped turbodiesel. 😉

    #259482
    GPservice
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    Re: Petrol Is Cheaper?

    Yes you are right, im sure if people changed to LPG in vast numbers the tax would go up 👿 . And it would be nice if i could chip it too, trouble is if i did im sure the exhaust would be like a flame thrower 😆 .

    #259483
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Petrol Is Cheaper?

    Well, diesel used to be cheaper than petrol as it was a “commercial” fuel. :rolls:

    If you managed to get a vehicle to run on water I’m sure government would find a way to tax it as, let’s face it, they’ve done a grand job of that thus far.

    K.

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