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October 21, 2008 at 8:30 pm #40391
lola
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I have a 3 year old Beko TLA 6018 larder fridge which is slowly filling the drip tray on top of the compressor. The internal back panel has quite a bit of water droplets on it. The compressor runs ok but doesnt get more than warm. The fridge itself keeps perfect temperature. I have checked the door seal ok. Room temp is 19 degC and humidity in the kitchen is 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}. The drain channel is clear and no abnormal noises or other problems.
Any ideas why the drip tray fills to overflowing? Is the compressor supposed to be hot rather than warm? Is the room RH too high?
All help appreciated.
October 23, 2008 at 12:53 pm #266038cockney steve
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My guess is you are right on with your RH.-that , of course is dependent on temperature.
A fridge simply sucks heat from the cabined and disperses it to the surrounding air, so if your compressor is only getting warm, that would suggest your frodge is well-sealed and letting in only a small amount of heat.
Maybe your kitchen RH and temperature vary a lot more than you think.
really, you can only make sure that the drip-tray is clean and seated tight-down on the compressor. Standing a bit of felt, or similar absorbent material, in the tray, would increase the surface-area to evaporate the water, but would be likely to rust the black heat-dissipating vanes of the Condensor up the back of the fridge.
the water is condensed out of the air inside the fridge, that’s what leads me to suspect the RH /Ambient temp. relationship.
Small kitchen?poor ventilation? cooking with open pots and no extractor?
(lots of steam whilst boiling stuff and using the fridge?)October 23, 2008 at 4:46 pm #266039lola
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Thanks for info.
I believe the fridge is well sealed. We cook with lids, reasonable large kitchen. Kitchen RH and temp figs accurate and MIN MAX only slight deviation. Fridge MIN MAX is between 4.9 and 7.6 degC.
I have tried a modification to the drip tray. The tray itself has separate areas which are divided by internal walls with lower areas to allow water to gradually fill up the tray when the previous segment has water in it. Dont know if that will make sense?? Hope so. I raised the level of the first barrier (dam) therefore keeping more of the water in the first segment (the one above the compressor). My theory is that as the water disperses into the other areas that it doesn’t evaporate from them since these areas are outwith the compressor’s footprint. Therefore the heat the compressor generates does not heat the water at the extremities of the drip tray. I have just checked the level 24 hours after making the mod and the water build up looks normal (I hope) indicating that some evaporation is occurring. I won’t count my hens for another week though.
I have tried a de-humidifier next to the fridge for a few days but no effect. Water build up inside the fridge at guess is normal.
I like the thought about the felt – will try.
Can anyone tell me how hot the compressor should get at the end of a running cycle?
October 23, 2008 at 9:49 pm #266040cockney steve
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How hot the compressor gets, is dependent on how much heat the refrigerant is absorbing, inside the cabinet.!
The compressor itself, will produce heat from the motor-windings-the longer it runs, the more effect heat-buildup in the motor-core will have..
As the thermostat will cut-in whenever the selected temperature is exceeded(by the operating-differential), the compressor will always start removing heat at the same temp. …when it reaches the set-point it will stop……SO, the variable is……..how much heat and moisture gets inside the cabinet….the more heat = the more often the compressor cuts in. the more moisture = the more condensate is collected on the evaporator-plate (as ice or frost) and then melted to run down to the tray on top of the compressor.
💡 do you keep salads/fruit/open liquids in the fridge?
-Of course, It could be, that the reservoir simply doesn’t have a big-enough surface-area to evaporate all the moisture deposited in it.but remember! that water is going straight back into the kitchen ambient air.
October 24, 2008 at 5:39 am #266041lola
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‘do you keep salads/fruit/open liquids in the fridge?’
Salad – in the salad crisper. No open liquids in fridge.
Thanks for the explanation re the condensor heat.
I do like the idea of the felt since the first evaporation chamber is domed and without my mod’d barriers the water sits at the lowest part of this domed section and when is breaches the first barrier it moves to the next compartment (away from the compressor). I think a little help like the felt will increase the surface area on the domed section and will help greatly.
I dont understand why now after 3 years. I suspect RH is on the edge. It was 76{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} last week. Now that it is 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} things are getting better. I also siliconed the top of the door seal as the door is warped.
When we had to replace the kitchen floor last year I remember there being some water in the tray which I emptied along with all the fluff blocking the drainage channels in the tray. Bear in mind we had knee high water in the street last year during the floods (+under house) and a lot of rain this year. Hence RH is high.
Thanks – for your help.
October 24, 2008 at 9:19 am #266042cockney steve
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you must bear in mind that the humidity is RELATIVE.
A warm room at 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} will hold far more than a cold one -The higher the room temp. the larger the volume of water will be held in a given amount of air…..that’s why windows get condensation on them….
your fridge is a small, cold room with air-conditioning. (set on cooling,only) when you open the door, the cold air (being denser and heavier tan the warm kitchen air) slumps down and spills out of the bottom, to be replaced with moist, warm air at the top.
when you close the door, that moisture is frozen out of the air….so , not only is it cold air, it’s also very dry (reason Switzerland used to be popular for convalescing rich people with lung problems).RH is a meaningless figure without a temperature -reference. a volume of air at 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} RH , 10*C, would be “bone dry” if heated to 100*C-though it still contains the same AMOUNT of moisture…..you appear to have a lot of moisture-perhaps the house is still drying out?
October 24, 2008 at 1:05 pm #266043lola
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RH 52{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} at 19degC today.
Fridge drip tray level same today as last night.
Thanks
October 29, 2008 at 7:40 pm #266044lola
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Update:
Have resealed the whole of the top of the door seal to the body of the door with clear silicon. For now the drip tray is dry. I think the water in the tray is a result of a leaky seal (RH today is 47{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} @ 18.7degC so not much change there).
So – most of the door fits squarely to the fridge BUT the top of the fridge door bows outward as you look across the top of the door such that the seal (when fitted correctly) cannot meet the fridge in the centre of the door. Hence I have pulled the seal out and packed silicon behind it to ensure a good seal.
Can anyone tell me how to adjust the fridge door (undo the warp) or has it always been like that?
Would buying a new door (£27+del) put me out of my misery and solve this for good?
Thanks in advance.
October 29, 2008 at 8:20 pm #266045smartin
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have had a few of these with bowed doorsand some other makes aswell, i think it happens when they are foamed at the factory, a new door will almost certainly do the trick as there should be no gaps at all,gap = warm air = melted ice on wall = water in evaporator tray.
October 30, 2008 at 6:05 am #266046lola
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Thanks – it does appear that the door cannot be pushed back into shape as you could if it were warped diagonally.
I have found the door assembly for £27 + del and will buy a new handle at the same time as it snapped in half a few weeks ago.
I may wait to see how my silicon seal mod works out to save a few bob.
Thanks for all advice.
November 18, 2008 at 4:53 pm #266047lola
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Nope – heating cranked up working well. House still has RH 0f 54{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}. Heating down = poor evaporation. Heating wound up = evaporation.
Problem is RH. Every time it rains the fields around us fill up like ponds. Cant do much about that till we have a summer.
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