Gas instalation issue (for any CORGI Guys out there)

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  • January 1, 2009 at 10:55 pm #42207
    Pat-UK
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    Hi guys been a while since I posted, basicaly I decided to pack in repairs due to having no work, but things have started to pick up a little bit and have started to go out on the road again.

    I went to a house yesterday (31st Dec) to see an oven that was blowing the trip, when I got there , there was what was supposed to be a build in oven jamed into a single unit wobling all over the place, and on top was a gas hob, on a small piece of worktop this was not fixed down and moved around all over the place.

    The hob was not on a bayonet fitting, just copper and not fixed to anything so the pipe is bent and strained.

    I refused to work on it due to what I thought would be a high risk of pipe damage,

    As you can imagine the customer was not happy about it, I didn’t charge them anything,

    They said they had just moved in about a week, I asked them if they had got a gas saftey ticket, they knew nothing about it or even that they should have one from the landlord, I told them I would check out the rules and get back to them (to keep them sweet)

    Does anyone know what the regs are regarding hobs etc.. if they are on copper have they got to be securely fitted and not move, I know common sense tells you that they should be secure. but is it a requirement ?

    Any info would be great

    Thanks

    January 1, 2009 at 11:36 pm #272735
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Yes, they have to be secured to the worktop, you were right Pat. 😉

    K.

    January 1, 2009 at 11:52 pm #272736
    A1TEC
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    Re: Gas instalation issue (for any CORGI Guys out there)

    You were correct not to toutch it Pat.
    The land lord should have had a current safety certificate.
    Your next step should be to report it to RIDDOR.
    They will get to the bottom of it regarding the landlord and the installer.
    Hopefully some cowboy will be brought to justice.

    Being corgi registered myself, i am sick to death of cowboy installations and the jokers that employ them to do the work in the first place.


    John.

    January 2, 2009 at 9:44 am #272737
    Del
    Moderator

    Re: Gas instalation issue (for any CORGI Guys out there)

    Hi Pat

    Before attending any gas call always ask if the appliance has been installed correctly by a registered gas installer and always take the time to explain that should you find on arrival, that it hasn’t, then you may have to attach a warning label & disconnect their appliance if it has not been installed correctly.

    Sorry to have to tell you but irrespective of wether you charged the customer or not as the last person to attend the call you will be regarded as the one responsible.

    You should also state that your call charge will still apply regardless, it’s also a good idea to write down on the job sheet the name of the person that you explained this too.

    Remember Pat, We didn’t make the rules we are just the poor sod’s who have to operate by them, if we are to keep our cards.

    Sean

    January 2, 2009 at 12:36 pm #272738
    squadman
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    Re: Gas instalation issue (for any CORGI Guys out there)

    My experience for landlords and also my mates who is a corgi regesitered Gas Installer is that they are always trying to cut corners, for instance we had a guy in this morning who was questioning why he needed to have a corgi engineer to repair a gas hob in one of his properties, turns out his comes from across the channel where anyone with a spanner can work on gas. His opinion was that this Corgi lark is a rip off and waste of time designed to make money out of people ! Ha I said what would happen if some handyman that you employed did attempt repairs on your rented properties and the result was a Gas Explosion servere enough to kill people ? and destroy your properties, would you then be thinking that ah well he was only a odd job man and as he was not trained let alone insured you will be the one in court along with him ?

    Mon We he was gone !

    January 3, 2009 at 12:28 pm #272739
    Pat-UK
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    Re: Gas instalation issue (for any CORGI Guys out there)

    Thanks Guys

    I though I was in the right there,

    As I am not CORGI, I always ask if ovens are Gas before I even book a call, as this was an electric oven I didn’t expect a problem.

    I have phoned customer up this morning and advised them to get in touch with their letting agency to get it sorted out, and to get a gas safety inspection done.

    It turns out that the property is owned by the owner of quite a large building company, so you’d think that they would know better. just goes to show 🙂

    January 5, 2009 at 8:26 pm #272740
    cookerfit
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    Re: Gas instalation issue (for any CORGI Guys out there)

    Just for clarity, Pat, a hob must be installed on rigid pipework. It is no longer permissable to instal via a flexi hose and bayonet.

    If a new install in a flat, the burners must be FFD protected.

    Regards
    Cookerfit

    January 5, 2009 at 9:02 pm #272741
    wsts
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    Re: Gas instalation issue (for any CORGI Guys out there)

    cookerfit wrote:Just for clarity, Pat, a hob must be installed on rigid pipework. It is no longer permissable to instal via a flexi hose and bayonet.

    If a new install in a flat, the burners must be FFD protected.

    Regards
    CookerfitA hob can still be fitted on a hose as long as the manufacturers handbook says so but the same rules apply as in the installation of a cooker… i.e. hanging in a “u” shape and not fouling on anything etc.

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