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Programme 2, 40C, no other options selected. Having left the machine unattended for at least enough time for the full cycle I find that the door lock light is on. Selecting ”drain” it obviously pumps out water, and when the door can eventually be opened I find that the load is wet and warm, indicating that it has stopped at the end of the wash part of the cycle. I can finish the job by selecting ”rinse”, but it seems that there is something wrong – perhaps with the programmer. Any ideas?
Thank you
Re: Indesit WIDL126 washer/dryer
Thanks for responding.
It does spin on the “spin” setting, also on “rinse ” setting it rinses & spins normally.
It also seems OK on “wool” – but I always select “rinse hold” for this programme.
Re: Indesit WIDL126 washer/dryer
Not a usual type of fault, normally the lights will flash an error code.
Pretty dreadful machines TBH, the electronics are about the most unreliable on the market. 😥
I am personally on the cusp of refusing to go out to any more of these machines due to the time that I have wasted trying to sort them out only for them to fail again in short order. 😥
There is a possibility that one or two of the Indesit/Comet engineers who a kind enough to help us out may have come across this type of fault.
Failing that the Indesit Company do have a maximum repair charge. Due to the way that the electronics are reprogrammed in these machines you would be unable to sort it out yourself without major expense.
Jim.
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I did fear as much. I have little confidence in Indesit – shortly after I got this machine I called them in because clothes were still damp on the “cupboard dry” setting – the “engineer” flatly refused to accept that there was a moisture sensor! So I have to use cupboard dry + 40 minutes. Ho hum…
But many thanks for your help.
Re: Indesit WIDL126 washer/dryer
helo_75
Here is a quote from a letter from Indesit dated 14/2/06:
“In view of your comments we have discussed the matter with our Technical Department. They have confirmed that the appliance does have a humidity sensor. This will detect the dryness of the load, however we should explain that where a mixed load of items are dried, for example towels and shirts, the items that dry to the required level first will trigger the end of a drying cycle.”
OK – I called it a moisture sensor – amounts to the same thing.
Otherwise how could it differentiate between the three drying settings?
It has never worked properly, but that’s another issue.
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KermitT wrote:helo_75
Here is a quote from a letter from Indesit dated 14/2/06:
“In view of your comments we have discussed the matter with our Technical Department. They have confirmed that the appliance does have a humidity sensor. This will detect the dryness of the load, however we should explain that where a mixed load of items are dried, for example towels and shirts, the items that dry to the required level first will trigger the end of a drying cycle.”
OK – I called it a moisture sensor – amounts to the same thing.
Otherwise how could it differentiate between the three drying settings?
It has never worked properly, but that’s another issue.
ok
well, regardelss of what you might think, there is only ONE ‘sensor’ on the drying circuit
it isnt a moisture sensor, its an ntc.. in fact, its very similar to the wash ‘sensor’ in the fact that it reads the temperature by varying resistance.. moisture doesnt come into it
the three dryin sections are a set of values programmed into the board, and when the default resistance is met by the sensor, it switches off, regardless of whether the clothes are dry or not
that machine youve got is pants.. lowest quality of ALL the washer dryers out there, and methinks you think its more deluxe than it is
ive had many customers quoting chapter and verse, trying to be clever, but the facts are the machine isnt what you think it is
maybe a basic search of this site, or even a basic google will clarify things for you
but then what do i know, ive ony been repairing machines for 23 years
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I’m not trying to be clever. It is just that if a manufacturer offers a dryer with three settings – to paraphrase damp, slightly damp & bone dry – logic, and my knowledge of physics, electrics & electronics, tells me that this should be controlled by a sensor which measures the humidity of the exhaust air. Being told clearly by the manufacturer that this is in fact the case only reinforces this.
If these settings are really controlled by a thermistor (I assume that when you refer to “ntc” you mean a negative temperature coefficient thermistor) I cannot see that this, which only measures temperature, can give any meaningful indication of the remaining moisture content. Perhaps if there is also a thermistor at the inlet the difference between the two could give an indirect indication via the evaporative cooling, but this would be a rather weird way of going about it given that humidity sensors are cheap & easily obtainable. If Indesit has chosen this method then I can only conclude that the design is even worse than I thought it was!
I am well aware that I cannot expect the reliability from this machine that I would from one costing three times as much (although on the one occasion I bought a supposedly high quality – and expensive – appliance it failed in pretty short order). But this was the only one at the time which claimed to have the features I wanted – at any price. It offered sensor drying so I expected this. After all if you bought a mobile phone claiming to offer GPS you would expect it to be more specific than just telling you that you are in Europe!
I appreciate that you may have been in the business for 23 years. However I started repairing appliances of all sorts in the 60’s, and have only more or less stopped because my knees are no longer up to crawling around the floor trying to get at inaccessible components. My success rate is around 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} – including cases declared by an “engineer” to be beyond repair. So please accept that there may be other people out there who have some idea of what they are talking about.
and your right… since that is the ONLY thing there ( ill send you the manual if you like) its a rather poor way of controlling the dryer.. thats why your havng the trouble you have, just plain pants
Re: Indesit WIDL126 washer/dryer
The machine simply dries against time. The thermistor sets the temperature against its programming for any given selection, then the pcb counts down. There is no humidity sensor, comparator array, temperature graduation sensors or any of the stuff that an extra £100 would have bought you.
Essentially, the dryer circuit is “dumb”.
As you say that you are of a practical bent, the following steps , may improve matters.
1/ Clean the condenser housing on the rear of the drum – a surprising amount of fluff does collect and will restrict the airflow, as well as the machines ability to condense.
2/ Split the heater box and thoroughly de-fluff the fan. This tin-plate vertical axial flow jobs are so and soes for picking up fluff and will dractically reduce the airflow through the machine.Sorry, it’s a dog and now it’s barking. Replace at the earliest opportunity, preferrably with separates – even if you buy a compact dryer and drag it out when you need it, it will work better.
Penguin45.
Re: Indesit WIDL126 washer/dryer
Thanks for your various replies.
We do seem to have diverted from my original question – machine stopping mid-cycle – I’ll need to do some more research on this one – since it does rinse & spin successfully when I select “rinse” after it has stopped I may well live with this until it fails entirely.
The issue with drying was really just a side issue. but a few comments:
I hope that you will understand that when common sense told me that there should be a humidity sensor, and Indesit confirmed this in writing, I was more than a little surprised when people who seem to know what they are talking about tell me that there isn’t!
helo_75: Will you really send me the manual? This would be extremely useful – I do like to know how something is supposed to work (yes – I can read a circuit diagram!). And of course it would be of great help if, say, something simple like the pump or the door seal needs replacing. Also if you would like to see a copy of the letter from Indesit I will send it to you.
penguin45: Thanks for the advice, but I don’t think I have this sort of problem – the drying performance is exactly the same as it was on day one. And I did say earlier that my knees start objecting when indulging in this sort of activity! In any event I only use the dryer for my bed linen so this is not a major problem – just a nuisance.
Sadly a washer/dryer is the only possible option – this is a small flat so unless you can point me at a separate dryer that I can fold up & put in my sock drawer the only way I could have one would be to hang it out of the window!
I did look at all the alternatives, but at the time the only machine on the market which more or less met my requirements, regardless of price, was this one. Perhaps there are better options now – I haven’t researched this and will probably put up with this one as long as it – more or less – works.
One last question – as routine maintenance I have tried to take the filter out for cleaning (it still empties fine but I know that it is a good idea to do this from time to time). However I have been completely unable to do so – I can turn it around 1/3 of a turn, it deposits a pint or so of water on the floor (when will any washing machine manufacturer figure out how to prevent this?) but then it comes up against a positive stop and will not come out. I have given it a bit of a tweak with grips, but of course don’t want to force it in case something breaks. Is there a trick to removing it? Incidentally the instructions refer to undoing screws on the panel, but on this machine it is on clips.
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If the filter will not turn easily then you have something jammed in it. Often the only way to clear is to remove the pump completely.
As for the draining off issue, several manufacturers including certain models of our ISE machine do have a small hose adjacent to the pump filter that allows you to drain almost all of the water from the machine before removing the filter.
Jim.
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