Microwave Question

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  • #44699
    goosegreen
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    I used to repair a lot of Microwaves years ago but have got a bit rusty on them. Got a Panasonic NN series with a no heat fault, Circuit through mag and not down to earth,Diode and cap OK and 230 to tranny. The clamp meter only read 2.3 amps and I remember that the load should be about 6 amps when running, Any idea as to the fault Mag or Tranny? Old customer would go with either but not both components. Its a built in model in brown and customer cant find a suitable replacement.


    Goose

    #281977
    Specialist01269
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    Re: Microwave Question

    Hi: A lot of the transformers have a built in non replaceable fuse in the filament winding to the Magnetron, with the TX disconnected you should get the following resistance readings:
    Primary: 2 – 5 ohms
    Filament: Less than 1 ohm
    H.V: 20 – 120 ohms
    From any connection to TX casing using a Digital meter with a min 40 meg resistance range should be o/c.
    HTH
    Andy. 8)

    #281978
    goosegreen
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    Re: Microwave Question

    Got back to the job today and all the measurements are withing range, So other than a faulty mag I’m a bit stumped. I had a bit of a problem testing the diode as AFIR you need a tester or meter with a 12v battery and as mine was only 6v I rigged up a test lamp with one from a 12v car alarm fob.

    #281979
    Specialist01269
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    Re: Microwave Question

    Hi: Don’t forget you can’t check the diode, cap or circuit protector with a Digi. Any Analogue meter with a 6v or higher battery should be able to test the diode, Cap & circuit protector. What happened when you tested the diode with the lamp ? Also have you checked that you actually have 240v to the transformer primary? Have you checked the thermal cutouts for continuity? If all the above are o.k then it seems that the Magnetron is the only thing left.

    #281980
    goosegreen
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    Re: Microwave Question

    Years ago I used to use a Steinal Combi check which being 12v was fine for checking diodes. Using the 12 battery and lamp the diode was off one way and lit the other. I might chance a mag from AWI as the customer is desperate to get it repaired.

    Goose

    #281981
    Specialist01269
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    Re: Microwave Question

    AWI used to be pretty knowledgable about repairs & only too glad to give advice, worth a call in case there’s anything wev’e overlooked.
    Can u post & let me know how it turns out in the end.
    Thanks: Andy. 8)

    #281982
    electrofix
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    Re: Microwave Question

    to be honest i would do it the dangerous way

    this will only work on old transformered units not invertor types

    diconnect mag turn on for about 5 secs

    turn off and unplug (for safety and to remove earth return)

    short cap to earth and see if you get a big spark (using a well insulated screwdriver )

    if you do all hv ok just mag down

    you have to be careful but no more dangerous than opening an unknown microwave and having to discharge for safety


    hope this helps

    Dave

    #281983
    goosegreen
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    Re: Microwave Question

    I always short the cap before doing any work and I did get a spark, So again it looks like the HT sides OK. Have ordered a mag from AWI will let you know the outcome.

    Goose

    #281984
    LJDomestics
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    Re: Microwave Question

    if it says “inverter system” on the door… give it a miss… panasonic reccomend u change both parts on inverter system… mag and trans.. and the price is ridiculous

    #281985
    goosegreen
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    Re: Microwave Question

    Called back today and the new Mag did the trick! One very happy customer. Got a £10 tip as well 🙂

    Thanks all for the advise


    Goose

    #281986
    Specialist01269
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    Re: Microwave Question

    No problem mate, glad it worked out for you.
    If your considering going back into Microwave servicing, there’s a good little Analogue meter available. it’s made by pros-kit has a 9v battery & is just the right size to fit in your toolkit goes up to 20 meg resistance so useful for more than just Microwaves, about £15.00 from places such as CPC etc.

    Andy 🙂

    #281987
    goosegreen
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    Re: Microwave Question

    Just had a call from an old customer with an integrated Neff MW which is not heating. It about 5 years old, And would anyone know if it would have an inverter? Because if it is Ill walk away, can you imagine the cost of a new board.

    Goose

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