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Had my RAC mag today and an article re the developement of magnetic refrigeration for the domestic market with a working model for the 2012 olympics.
First patented around 1890 which is almost astonishing as the time it’s taken to develope.
Whirlpool are partners in the developement.
Would revolutionise the business if succesful,check it out hereRe: Magnetic Refrigeration
Thats a laugh, customer today just scrapped their Whirlpool FF Model ARC 4030UK1 as the PCB has gone tits up after 3 yrs.
Appliance was £300 new, the replacement PCB is £150 plus Vat, so there looking at +£240.00 repair.
So they will drive off too Curry`s for a replacement, whilst this very clean and smart Fridge will create a toxic waste for now reason.
The PCB is the size of my palm, only has a few relays etc etc, probably cost pennies to make and ship out.
And now Whirlpool wants to be Green. :rolls: :rolls: :rolls: :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:
It stinks.
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Yes as we all know Whirlpool have low prices on their finished products and high prices on their spare parts, all very sustainable 👿
I spend many hours a week explaining this to customers and feel sure over the last 10 years I have denied hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of business to the likes of Whirlpool, Indesit, Hotpoint etc.
Just starting to recommend the ISE machines as more and more people seem interested in appliances that last.
If the Indesit / Merloni group are still trading in 10 years time I will be amazed.Graham
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But would anyone want to buy one with Whirlpool’s spares pricing policy?
eg. This week washer 2.5 years old,mint condition,timer u/s £167 for part.
Machine cost £225 new.Top load USA w/m gearbox was about £90 a few months ago.
Quoted retail today £137.78+ VAT 😯A good week for the scrap man.
Steve
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Its been 6 hrs since I called and I`m still furious.
The unit looks brand new, its their spare appliance in the spare room, its frustrating only getting a cal lout when the repair would be soooo easy.
I even pointed them to Currys Part master site to prove I wasn`t taking the p888 as I`m sure they believed I was trying to make £200 profit, it was a big house with a well off client.
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I think spimps would have liked to have had a discussion about magnetic refrigeration, chaps.
Lots of threads to choose from for spare price bashing…….
Chris,
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Seemed to have touched a nerve there 😯
it’s the principle thats interesting to me.
Could spell the end of refrigerants if proven.
Whirlpool are involved in the UK but there are many companies and institutions around the world trying to perfect the principle.
Incomprehensible pricing is a fact of life,landlord near me called out a gas company to replace a thermocouple, on a Sunday granted,the total bill was £349-00,parts were £9.00 😯 8O.Re: Magnetic Refrigeration
Penguin45 wrote:I think spimps would have liked to have had a discussion about magnetic refrigeration, chaps.
Lots of threads to choose from for spare price bashing…….
Chris,
Moderator.The article quoted extols Whirlpool’s green credentials which is far removed from the reality of premature scrappage and criminally high spares pricing.
Standard refrigeration units can be repaired cheaply and reliably.
Heaven help us when we are held to ransom by this new technology. 😡Steve
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Just shows you, I put the story on the front page the other day and no-one noticed. 😉
TBH, what Whirlpool charge for spares is irrelevant here. It’s not happened yet.
Whether or not this is workable on a commercial scale has yet to be determined.
Whether it can work for freezing as well as refrigeration has yet to be determined. If we’re only talking under-counter fridges, likely with a reduced capacity, then it’s no more than an interesting gimmick IMO.
What the actual cost in in terms of production costs as well as all the fluffy stuff, has yet to be determined.
Running costs, not mentioned. Only the fact that there’s no “harmful gasses” which is great, if it doesn’t need it’s own power generating station.
In other words, lots of bones, no flesh on them.
And, as anyone with so much as a passing interest in physics will tell you, when it comes to energy, there’s no such thing as a free lunch. It is an interesting notion nonetheless and quite intriguing really but, without a truck of information to back up the “look what we’re doing, aren’t we so green” PR bulletin I don’t think I’ll be ditching the brazing kit in the near future.
The most important point however, to stress it again, is that there’s very, very little information and no technical detail in the press release and that will usually raise my suspicions about the authenticity of the CLAIMS as that’s what they are with no evidence.
By the time 2012 rolls around, unless they succeed with it, no-one will remember this press release. But many will recall Whirlpool hugging trees.
K.
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