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Hello,
I’m trying to help a member of the family with an Ariston Margerita A1635. I haven’t seen the machine but I am told the drum has “dropped”, so I guess that means either the bearings or spider have failed?
I found a post about another Ariston in which cockney steve said: “open the door, try wobbling the inner-drum around…..if it wobbles off-centre to the porthole EVENLY and revolves “evenly”, – It’s likely to be bearings……especially if it rumbles when being revolved.
when you pull the drum off-centre and it STAYS that way, revolves eccentrically and scrapes when the off-centre bit passes the lowest point (scrapes the heater!)…..almost certainly the spider”
Is that about right? If so, it may be that the spider has gone?
In the same thread Phidom said: “Also worth wobbling the drum and observing the rear pulley. If the drum wobbles but the pulley doesn’t you know the spider has failed.”
Would that work on this model too to confirm it definitely is the spider that has failed?
Is this model particularly nasty to repair? I’ve tried to do a search on Ariston models and found that they are part of the Indesit/Hotpoint family and are not much liked here! Is this one of those jobs where it is better to throw the machine away and start again with a new machine from another manufacturer! Any advice on how to go ahead an repair the spider and or bearings?
Thanks.
its a sealed metal tank
if the bearings are at fault, then you can see them by taking off the rear crossmember
if theyre bad, and theres any damage to the spider, its a new tank assembly
theyre above £100…..
helo_75 wrote:its a sealed metal tank
if the bearings are at fault, then you can see them by taking off the rear crossmember
if theyre bad, and theres any damage to the spider, its a new tank assembly
theyre above £100…..
I read the advice pages here and I saw a photo of a washer tub where the two halves were welded together; is this what you mean by sealed tank? I read that the manufacturers say it saves money by welding the tank but I can’t see how, surely they only save the cost of a couple of bolts?
I thought I saw a page some time ago with photos of corroded spiders, which is why I thought this may have happened in this case, but I can’t find the page any more.
Thanks.
no, yours is a sealed metal tank, spot welded from new
might be cheap for the manufacturer, not cheap for you
helo_75 wrote:no, yours is a sealed metal tank, spot welded from new
might be cheap for the manufacturer, not cheap for you
Thanks.
I can’t see how welding saves any money though, surely the alternative would be to bolt it together and bolts don’t cost that much.
So the manufacturer welds the tank shut with the spider inside. When the spider rots, there’s no way to replace it. What a money spinner for the manufacturer, instead of a new spider you have to buy a new machine!
Perhaps this is the real reason they weld it shut?Re: Ariston Margherita a1635 spider/bearing replacement
Hi Stephen,
Have a read at this article all about sealed tanks
If I were a really cynical person, which obviously I’m not (;)), I’d have to point out that bolts have a weight, about half a kilo per machine.
We have a system to deal with scrap across Europe called WEEE that charges that manufacturers based on the weight of the products that they sell.
Multiply that saving across hundreds of thousands of machines per year sold across the EU by the big boys and, it’s a fair old bit of cash, even if it’s only a few cents in production and a few cents on WEEE charges.
It doesn’t take a genius to see what’s going on and that they’re all trying to produce the cheapest machine which will logically almost always not be the best machine in almost every respect bar price.
K.
Re: Ariston Margherita a1635 spider/bearing replacement
kwatt wrote:Hi Stephen,
We have a system to deal with scrap across Europe called WEEE that charges that manufacturers based on the weight of the products that they sell.
I wonder how long before they reduce or replace the concrete weights inside them?!
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