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The new Connect update came through the door the other day. A lot of shiny paper wasted on me. I don’t think I’ve ever added anything to an order just because I saw it in there. However, in an absent moment I wasted 10 mins. browsing it ands now I’m wasting another ten writing this post.
First of all the, “Universal Dryer Balls” DST4055040424 Do they really “reduce drying time by 25{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}” ❓ If so, everyone with a dryer should have them issued free by the government forthwith. Maybe 4 packs each to reduce drying time to nil?
Secondly, Intellipanel Energy Saver Control code OCKTVAIMP206. Now the claims for this sound a bit less exaggerated, “saves an average 35 watts per hour” though still need more detail on that. However, written prominently on the item itself are the words, “THE INTELLIGENT APPROACH TO GLOBAL WARMING.”
:rotfl: :look: :rolling: :laugh:
What think you?
Mike.Re: Extravagant energy saving claims?
I have just been to a customer with the drying balls. Instructions say, one pink and one purple in each drying load.
I was doing the washer and stopped the dryer to check. I thought the rear bearing had gone and found these.
The purple is soft, like a tennis ball and the pink is rock hard.
We took them out and the clothes tumbled just the same without the clunking and came to the conclusion that all they achieved was to knock hell out of the clothes in the dryer.
Another con, just like the washballs.
Just a load of BA**S all round :rolls:
RobRe: Extravagant energy saving claims?
leavemetogetonwithit wrote:First of all the, “Universal Dryer Balls” DST4055040424 Do they really “reduce drying time by 25{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}” 😕
No.
K.
It really is amazing what useless rubbish people will buy if some marketing guru decides they can sell it to the general public.
Reminds me of this scretch from “That Mitchell and Webb Look”.
I think its very funny anyway.Re: Extravagant energy saving claims?
kwatt wrote:
No.
Why be so abiguous? 😆Anyway, how do they get away with making claims like that? Ain’t there a law against it? And what does the intellipanel do? How does it save energy, even if the claim is exaggerated? I’m thinking it would take one hell of a long time to recoup even its trade price of £20 +vat. let alone the environmental cost of its lifecycle, “cradle to grave.”
Mike.Re: Extravagant energy saving claims?
I’ve been brushing my tongue since my first girlfriend and that is too many years passed. 😳
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robbra wrote:I have just been to a customer with drying balls, one pink and one purple
Hate that when they answer the door when they’re just out of the shower :clown:Re: Extravagant energy saving claims?
Many “manufacturers” trade on a fine line between what is truth and what is not and this is generally based on what they can get away with legally and, even if they do fall on the wrong side of the law, unless someone actually complains of and, disproves the statement, then it is true.
A simple case of caveat emptor.
Basically, unless you question the claims of the seller and ask for proof and evidence that the claims are correct then they can say what they like. Without any proof contrary to what they claim, there’s no case.
So, like ecoballs and whatever else, they can say and claim what they want quite freely. If people choose not to bother actually researching the rubbish they buy (read snake oil) then that’s their own lookout. And, there’s plenty out there stupid enough to fall for an illogical argument that is backed by no proof whatsoever but, they want it to be true, often so much as to believe firmly that it is true.
It is sad that people can be ripped off like this but, that’s the way it is.
Meanwhile TS etc. spend their days chasing a lot of legitimate businesses, often small to medium ones, that are much easier targets as they’re not moving and don’t have a barrage of solicitors to let loose.
K.
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It ain’t right. I’m sure this is fooling a lot of folks and it shouldn’t be difficult to disprove those claims. I think I’ll give TS a call later in the week. Maybe one of those TV programmes too. You don’t get anywhere if you don’t kick up a stink.
Mike.Re: Extravagant energy saving claims?
Mike,
Let me put it this way for you…
We have claims of drums that cannot possibly be any more than a 5kg load rated at 6kg or above.
We have claims of 20, 30 and even up to 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} energy savings which, if not entirely untrue are extremely misleading.
We have claims of energy rating measures being met when, clearly they are not.
And, that’s the so-called legitimate big boys, not fly-by-night Chinese manufacturers selling £10 trinkets that aren’t worth going to court over.
The trouble is, what does government do about it? The short answer is that, without a mammoth amount of resources to test any claims made in advertising there’s really not hellish much that they can do about it. This is especially the case with low-cost items that tend to run their course as a fad.
But, I’ve seen it first hand with the energy thing oh so often, people believe the propaganda in the glossy advert because, largely, they want to believe it even if it holds no substance whatsoever. It just justifies their decision to buy a whatever as they will then be saving money and, the planet apparently.
Whether it’s true or not, doesn’t really seem to matter.
Making people understand this really is an uphill task, I can assure you.
K.
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Electrolux themselves make no energy saving clains for these balls, merely:
“These dryerballs use the specially designed nodes to physically break down the stiffness created by water drying in fabric, thus softening laundry without the introduction of toxic chemicals.”
Perhaps the Intellipanel turns off appliances left on standby – have heard of devices like this before
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I often have friends asking me things like, “Which (electric) heater will give out the most heat for the lowest running cost?” :rolls:
The public are ignorant on these matters. That’s why they believe the stuff they see advertised. Not only that, they think that it’s only a matter of changing light bulbs and putting out their recycling for collection and they’ll prevent global warming / resource depletion being too bad. The reality is that the combined effect of those two things will achieve as good as nothing.
Mike.Re: Extravagant energy saving claims?
The basic problem Mike is that people don’t understand the difference between “indicative” and “actual”.
People expect that electrical appliances will simply return whatever the advert claimed and, they do it with these sorts of ball things as well as much more too.
There was a thread the other day about some muppet trying to compare an ISE10 dryer (vented IIRC) against a heat pump dryer by Siemens I think and he just could not understand that what is claimed and what you actually will get can be poles apart. It depends on how you use it and what you put in it that really matter, as well as where it’s installed.
And yet most people understand and totally accept that they won’t get the claimed MPG figure from their car and that it has to be down to them, their style of driving and all of that stuff.
So people understand it for some things but don’t or, probably more accurately, don’t want to understand it for others.
K.
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Thinking is dangerous, it makes people question reason.
In a modern society full of rules and regulations that is the last function you want people doing.
I blame the Internet.
Seriously the world in 20yrs is going to be one strange place.
The cultural generation tags associated with peoples mentality, generation Z is far far far different in thinking to the current generation in power, that being X and Y.
Most parents are fed up with young childrens behaviour, there inability to carry out basic daily tasks without constantly being told is creeping in to the Z generation.
Generation Z have an inability to function away from the media and a far easily controlled by the content within that media.
We have all joked about the kids programming the VCR, now that has gone far further, now there slowly becoming incapable of simple tasks, such as hands on repairs.
I worked with a kid on the weekend, it took him nearly 3 hours to remove a set of plugs and oil filter on a simple motor, took him about 5 minutes on a laptop to setup diagnostics, tune etc. :rolls:
So to get back on topic it is going to be very difficult explaining the content of there computor is a load of old tosh when there so confident it is not. 😉
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stratfordgirl wrote:Electrolux wrote:
“These dryerballs use the specially designed nodes to physically break down the stiffness created by water drying in fabric, thus softening laundry without the introduction of toxic chemicals.”
You can imagine the designers must have trained for decades and stayed up sweating profusely over the drawing board many a long, long night getting those nodes just the right amount of pointy and stiff to ensure that your tee shirts will get jabbed just hard enough to “physically break down the stiffness created by water drying in fabric.” I must say this was a problem that had always caused me a phenomenal amount of concern. I really think they should have been paid a whole lot more. We owe it to them, as a nation, to see that they are looked after well in their old age.
😆
Mike.
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