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May 17, 2004 at 4:38 pm #5525
kwatt
KeymasterThis is getting silly…
By my calculations that means that I’m down £780 a year approx due to the hikes in price so I’m now sat wondering who’s going to cough up for it. 🙁
K.
May 18, 2004 at 9:49 pm #111695charlieboy
ParticipantRe: Nearly 90 Pence A Litre
is it petrol your talking about…..my brother lives in arizona and laughs when i phone him about the price of petrol in this country…its $1.25(petrol)at the moment and theres uproar there about that price….thats 70p a gallon yes 12p per ltr……..and diesel is 65c thats about 38p a gallon(not a ltr a gallon) can you imagine paying 38p a gallon you could fill the ol escort up for £7.00 approx…..mmmmm……was wondering how much a horse and cart would cost me and if the customer would mind me parking it outside her house…mmmmmm dunno though might be a bit pooy…i’ll forget that one and keep paying through the nose for me diesel……..
May 19, 2004 at 7:29 am #111696kwatt
KeymasterYeah I know, having been in the US (and it applies to most foreign shores) by comparison the UK is massively expensive. One chap I know in California told me that if their government tried to tax the way ours does that public hanging would make a swift comeback…for politicians! 😆
The point I was making that due to the increases in fuel costs and the increases on tax that just a few pence a litre has risen our costs on just two vans by such a huge amount. Our pal Gordon has another 2p a litre rise planned for September which will put further strain on the costs and will, in many cases, tip the cost per litre over 90p a litre. What’s worse is that I’m getting reports from some areas that it’s already over £1 a litre in some rural areas, including some of my area so I can hardly say I’m ecstatic about it.
K.
May 19, 2004 at 10:09 am #111697Dave_Conway
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kwatt wrote:who’s going to cough up for it.
Well one thing’s for certain, I doubt most of us can carry on absorbing the fuel price increase without a rate rise from somewhere 😥
Which still doesn’t answer the question of who though, especially if the majority of the work being done is a fixed rate from an insurer or manufacturer etc
Dave.
June 2, 2004 at 11:17 am #111698kwatt
KeymasterRe: Nearly 90 Pence A Litre
See the front page for the latest and I am watching this shall we say. 😉
A summary of the morning sentiment from the nationals;
“Anger grew last night over the rocketing price of petrol as some garages pushed prices over £1 a litre,” says The Mirror. “The Road Haulage Association was planning demonstrations around the country.”
“Yesterday, in the UK, crude oil reached its highest price per barrel since its 1990 peak, while in the US it reached a record high,” says the ITV news website. “Crude in the US peaked at 42.33 US dollars per barrel (£22) – up more than 6{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}. In the UK prices closed at 39.08 US dollars per barrel (£21) – a 6.83{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} increase. In October 1990 UK crude hit a record 40.95 US dollars (£21.75) per barrel.”
Panic on the markets was prompted by the weekend’s bloody al-Qaeda attack on Western oil workers in Saudi Arabia. Since then, chancellor Gordon Brown hass been “hitting the phones”, according to The Times, as he attempts to talk to OPEC’s 13 oil ministers before their meeting tomorrow in Beirut. He will be warning them that no one will benefit if oil prices end up damaging the global economy and is calling for them to lift production quotas.
Meanwhile, The Telegraph has tracked down the most expensive unleaded petrol in mainland Britain to Bispham Van Hire, near Blackpool, where it cost £1.09p per litre yesterday. On the Scilly Isles, punters were forced to pay £1.12p. The UK average is currently 85p.The Times: Petrol price fears prompt plea to Opec The Guardian: Oil price soars to new high The Guardian: Even Opec cannot stem this surge The Telegraph: Petrol soars to £1 a litre amid fears of oil terrorism The Telegraph: Oil drama is no crisis The Telegraph: The most expensive petrol in Britain The Mirror: GREEDY PETROL BOSSES PUMP UP PRICES The Sun: £1.12 for litre of unleaded
ITN: Oil could soar even more
The Scotsman: Fuel tax warning to Brown as oil price hits new US high The Evening Standard: ‘No tax cuts to curb fuel prices’There is already talk of protests being organised on the 9th and 10th of June to distrupt the local elections and this has come froma pretty good source.
K.
June 2, 2004 at 12:41 pm #111699kwatt
KeymasterReports now coming in of pump prices at £1.12 a litre in the London area. This is a 42{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} increase on the national average pump price of 0.79p a litre only four weeks or so ago. It also means that if I had to pay that on fuel that my fuel bill just went up by a whacking £2620 a year to run the two vans only!!!
That’s the profit on 480 service calls wiped out just on fuel alone, or almost ten weeks of working for nothing just to fuel up.
This is becoming a problem, rapidly! 🙁
Fuel protests are due to begin next week unless there is some form of resolution found according to David Hanley who organised them the last time around. The Road Hauliers Association are also not happy campers at the moment.
K.
June 2, 2004 at 3:54 pm #111700Martin
ParticipantNearly 90 pence a litre
I topped up today (diesel) at 82.9 per litre ‘cos tomorrow they will indeed be ramping it up! 90p you reckon?….Christ!!!!! 😯
Based on my experiences of a couple of years ago during the fuel protests, it is best to keep your motor fully topped up. If you run diesels then pop into Halfords and buy a few gerry (jerry ? not sure) cans and stash a few litres away for those many rainy days to come.
Panic buy ? BLOODY RIGHT MATE 😉 😉
Martin
June 2, 2004 at 9:09 pm #111701admin
KeymasterRe: Nearly 90 Pence A Litre
I learnt from the last petrol fiascoand have 3 45 gallon drums 1/2 full already.
bryan
June 2, 2004 at 9:32 pm #111702admin
KeymasterRe: Nearly 90 Pence A Litre
hi r600, not sure your not breaking the law on storing so much potentially explosive fuel………
I am aware there are limits that bring in the rule and regulation handbook to slap you around and make you toe the line……….Anyone out there know more?????
kheathJune 2, 2004 at 9:39 pm #111703eastlmark
ModeratorRe: Nearly 90 Pence A Litre
Yeah, but the idiot fuel protesters did non of us any favors last time.
June 2, 2004 at 11:28 pm #111704Penguin45
ParticipantWe are reverting to the “bad old days” of the seventies, except now it’s not the unions (legislated into virtual helplessness), it’s now we, the people who want to be heard. Unless the current administration want to legislate us (the people) into the same state.
The government is supposed to serve the peope, not vice versa; I think we’re all intellegent enough to realise where we are with the current lot.
Are we all ready for the next 2p from the government in September? It’s coming.
So, do we sit here and moan about it? Do we moan about the people who are sufficiently motivated to do something and lose?
This is an inconvenience to us and is eroding our margins, but it could be so much worse – you could be a self employed truck driver doing 12mpg in a 40′ rig – you’re getting absolutely screwed!
If this really is important, get out there and do something about it. We’ll lose but at least you have the satisfaction of trying.
I had thought I was through my “Power to the people” phase, but currently I get so annoyed with the current administrations “So what” attitude that I might even get the guitar back out again and get back on the protest circuit.
Protest or die, vote or shut up, do nothing and drown. It’s up to you, but have some little respect for those who are prepared to try.
Red Penguin45
June 3, 2004 at 7:12 am #111705kwatt
KeymasterI dunno Mark they gave the government the biggest wake up call any governing party has had in my memory and they’ve still not shaken off the effect fully. The fact is that the government capitulated to a degree and saved face in 2000 as the oil prices were lowered by OPEC ramping up production. It would seem that this time around OPEC may well not have option and the current administration is in trouble over it as there is, ultimately, only two choices open to them. Either they lower the duty on fuel and lose face or they batter ahead flying in the face of public opinion and await the backlash, Hobson’s choice I believe they call it.
However Penguin is correct in that there is a planned 2p price increase in the duty slated to go on in September and, thus far, the word from the Chancellor is that there is no way they will recind that increase. Given that we’re already touching 90p a litre in many areas and over £1 in some and that crude seems to be rising on the world markets still this is not looking too clever at all.
However, most people miss the point, it’s not the fuel that’s the killer in the UK it’s the duty on fuel that is and then, to add insult to injury, we get charged VAT on the fuel AND the duty which some feel is at best immorral and possibly ilegal but no-one’s taken it to a court yet. It is merely another stealth tax in essense but one that costs my business a lot of money.
The problem is the knock-on effect for us, if fuel goes up so does everything else as the costs just get added on, we have to do it and so does everyone else. In a few months, if the situation is not resolved, engineers will be asking for pay increases or looking for a better paid employment somewhere and that’s a real issue for many.
K.
(never played guitar but if it’ll help… ;))
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