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a letting asked me to look at a baumatic gas hob, the ignition switch is clicking all the time and gave the tennent a small shock.
i am not corgi registered, can i repair this appliance?i wouldnt have thought so, as soon as u remove a panel you become the responsible person
sorry, u need to advise they use a gas safe registered engineer
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You can repair without the need for a gas safe engineer.
To date I can name 4 major companies who have non Gas trained technicians replacing Electrical components to gas appliances.
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lee8 wrote:You can repair without the need for a gas safe engineer.
To date I can name 4 major companies who have non Gas trained technicians replacing Electrical components to gas appliances.An ignition is classed as a gas safety device and therefore not touchable by non gas safe.
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lee8 wrote:You can repair without the need for a gas safe engineer.
To date I can name 4 major companies who have non Gas trained technicians replacing Electrical components to gas appliances.
oh please dont dissapoint…. name them?
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according to Comet you can, we used to have this argument until we were blue in the face. It came to a head one day at a engineers training day, when the subject got quite heated. The head Whitegoods Guy wasn’t really winning the argument and the Centre manager basically told us “it wasn’t a gas issue we had to do it or else”. He went on to to ask every single gas engineer in the room if they disagreed with him??? Not one did and most of them were normally quite vocal on any subject. His (Centre managers’) last words were you either repair DF appliances or get another job……strangely, when asked he would not put this in writing
go on, who’s going to be the first non-Gas Safe(Ex Corgi) engineer to come one here and tell everyone they have never, ever changed a fan element, door handle or fitted a knob or any part to a DF or gas appliance.
Now, however for me it is a rare exception for me to go near a DF app now but I did in the past. I had no choice…
Around me, there are no immediate suppliers of WG parts, I know most of the CKR 1 Q’d guys and if it’s a DF app and they need a non gas part, they’ll come to me for it. Most of the time they also want me to fit it…..or used to. Work is that scarse, they’ll come and buy an element and go and fit it now
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RocketMan wrote:according to Comet you can, we used to have this argument until we were blue in the face. It came to a head one day at a engineers training day, when the subject got quite heated. The head Whitegoods Guy wasn’t really winning the argument and the Centre manager basically told us “it wasn’t a gas issue we had to do it or else”. He went on to to ask every single gas engineer in the room if they disagreed with him??? Not one did and most of them were normally quite vocal on any subject. His (Centre managers’) last words were you either repair DF appliances or get another job……strangely, when asked he would not put this in writing
go on, who’s going to be the first non-Gas Safe(Ex Corgi) engineer to come one here and tell everyone they have never, ever changed a fan element, door handle or fitted a knob or any part to a DF or gas appliance.
Now, however for me it is a rare exception for me to go near a DF app now but I did in the past. I had no choice…
Around me, there are no immediate suppliers of WG parts, I know most of the CKR 1 Q’d guys and if it’s a DF app and they need a non gas part, they’ll come to me for it. Most of the time they also want me to fit it…..or used to. Work is that scarse, they’ll come and buy an element and go and fit it now“strangely, when asked he would not put this in writing” tells a story on its own doesnt it, its now supposedly been said that non gas can touch the electric part of a d/f cooker unless it requires the disconnection of the bayonet, but the ignitions do not come under the electric part as they are specifically for the gas side.
strangely, i work for comet.. and its simple.. electric guys do not touch gas appliances.. period.. nice and simple….
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to be honest this is a funny situation….some manufactures allow non ‘gas safe ‘ engineers to fit electric parts to gas appliances!!….however , GAS safe means that you look for more than the applaince you work on…its the whole risk assessment of the situation and property…in my mind, even fitting a knob on a gas appliance, you need to be registered as you are a responsible person!……why would we go through that horrible exam for!…. i am afraid, some companys are putting profit before safety…..in my mind all test should be done everytime, gas checks even for non gas repairs, and loop tests on all properties!!!…
helo_75 wrote:strangely, i work for comet.. and its simple.. electric guys do not touch gas appliances.. period.. nice and simple….
interesting you say that helo_75 as when I left Comet about 4 years ago everyone was looking at gas appliances with electrical faults with no gas training, they must have had a change of policy since then?
most definately… too risky
it always , as kwatt says, goes down to the ‘responsible person’
it hasnt happened, not yet!
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thanks boselecta,
four years ago for me as well. I was not in any way having a go at any individuals who work Comet. It was definately a manangement policy problem, not with individuals. 95{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the guys were great and even most of the management were not too bad as indivuals. As managers they just kept to company policy make money at all costs, it is after all quite a cut throat business ar times….
I won’t go on about, fix it at any cost and tumble dryer fires and write it off, ‘cus D&G are paying and you’ll get a first time fix jobs, they all went against my basic instincts….
So Helo, you still telling me non gas Q’d guys aren’t fixing electrical faults on DF/Gas cookers….. I doubt it doesn’t happen at all, it just might be more prevelant in remote/deep field areas…….
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