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July 21, 2010 at 11:57 am #55994
neverwas
ParticipantHelp, please, on how to replace the jockey wheel and arm (part number x245677 or c00165972).
One of the 2 wheels has lost its bearing. I have removed the side panel and released the belt from the jockey wheels. It looked then to be an easy job. But I cannot remove the jockey wheel. The arm will not rotate far enough for me to free it from the mounting bracket. It hits the motor spindle. And I cannot release the whole mounting bracket as the motor is bolted to it.
Is it necessary to remove the motor in order to replace a jockey wheel? If so, from the back or the front please?
Photo here in case it helps given the vast number of different but similar models:
July 21, 2010 at 2:46 pm #325854iadom
ModeratorRe: Replacing jockey wheel on Creda T632CW condensing tumble
The jockey pulley arms will come off, its a bit of an awkward job to say the least, no need to touch the motor though.
You have to pull the bottom of the pulley arm nearest to you until the lugs come free then release the rear one and pull them both away.
Its best to get two new jockey pulley assemblies and replace both at the same time.
If you think that one is bad you should see the one on the later models. :rolls:
THESE are what you need.
July 21, 2010 at 6:26 pm #325855neverwas
ParticipantRe: Replacing jockey wheel on Creda T632CW condensing tumble
Thanks for that – but I have still failed to manage to disengage the arms; and my neighbour (who is younger/stronger/fitter) has also failed. The arms seem to be machined/stamped so they simply won’t disengage with the drive shaft for the belt in place. It’s close but (as my neighbour said) “they simply won’t go without shafting the drive shaft”.
I am therefore resigned to a more substantial disassembly. And so think I might as well replace the belt as well while I’m about it. (I do appreciate the recommendation to replace both jockey wheels and will do so.) I assume what I need to order is one of http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/Tumble+D … +Belt.html
But – please! – do I fit it by removing the front panel or the back?
July 21, 2010 at 7:03 pm #325856iadom
ModeratorRe: Replacing jockey wheel on Creda T632CW condensing tumble
Well my 62 year old arms have never had a problem getting these out on many occasions, you would be daft to take the motor and belt off to change these pulleys, its a ten minute job. :rolls:
To remove the motor and change the belt requires a major strip down, for the sake of a worn jockey pulley it would be an extreme folly. 😉
It would be less trouble and may leave the dryer in full working order if you got an expert in to fix it, honestly it really is a fiddly but straightforward repair.
I do hope you won’t take this the wrong way, but if it is beyond your capabilities to change these pulleys in situ then you really should not attempt to change the belt or remove the motor.
July 21, 2010 at 8:56 pm #325857machineman
ParticipantI concur a 10 min job. Skin of the knuckles maybe but a very easy job
Have a look at the underside of the machine and you will see where the jockey arm comes through the base it is clipped in
DAVEJuly 21, 2010 at 9:01 pm #325858iadom
ModeratorRe: Replacing jockey wheel on Creda T632CW condensing tumble
This is a condensor dryer Dave, the jockey pulleys are located in a plate mounted near the motor not in the base, although these are exactly the same pulleys and will come out easily if you know what you are doing.
July 21, 2010 at 9:22 pm #325859aqualectric
ParticipantRe: Replacing jockey wheel on Creda T632CW condensing tumble
You have to twist them slightly to remove them from their locating slots – easy job. They WILL pass the motor spindle – I’ve changed hundreds so it IS possible.
If you can’t do this, then with all due respect, you haven’t got a hope of doing the drum drive belt. When you remove the drum, if not done correctly and methodically, the machine will seem to “fall apart” before your very eyes.Safety is paramount on UKW and we can help you up to a point. Even as seasoned pro’s WE have limits to our abilities. The trick is to know your personal limit and then seek help. There is no short cut to experience and it will work out cheaper in the long run to get an engineer to do it for you. If you buy unnecessary parts or break something (or yourself!!) on this machine, it could end up costing you a lot more. 😉
Hope that helps,
A.
July 21, 2010 at 10:18 pm #325860helo_75
Participanttaking the motor off opens a massive can of worms, especially at that age of machine
have to agree, 15 mins tops
July 22, 2010 at 5:21 am #325861spimps
ParticipantRe: Replacing jockey wheel on Creda T632CW condensing tumble
Completely unnecessary to take the motor off,will make it more awkward than it is,scatched arms etc but 15 minutes maximum which includes vacuuming the fluff out.
July 22, 2010 at 10:08 am #325862neverwas
ParticipantRe: Replacing jockey wheel on Creda T632CW condensing tumble
Many thanks for the many replies.
I am not at all offended by doubts about my abilities. On the contrary, I’d much rather not be encouraged to take on too much.
FWIW I’d not claim to be particularly handy and am certainly not very knowledgeable. But with clear instructions I can usually manage. For example I have replaced belts on older/simpler dryers and on washers; rebuilt car engines (but ending up with very oily Haynes manuals); rewired houses and tested the circuits using earth loop and insulation testers (but with very frequent checks with the IEE’s On-Site Guide); and replaced TV line transformers, CRT sockets etc (after very carefully discharging the capacitors). On the other hand, you won’t get me on a roof without scaffolding for any money and I’m crap at anything involving bricks.Anyway, I’m sorted on the brackets for now thanks. I went back to the brackets this morning armed with your several comments, a brighter work light and 2 pairs of reading glasses (one on top of t’other!) Saw that one of the arms was a bit bent and burred at one corner. A few strokes with a rat-tailed file and it came free at last. Not the kind of thing a pro can fart about with I know. And I am resigned to losing some skin when refitting the new brackets and the spring.
As regards the belt, there was an awful lot of black crumb-like material inside the machine which I thought could only have come from the belt. The belt is also slightly frayed at the edges. It simply ain’t worth getting someone in to replace the belt on such an old/cheap machine: we live in London where service engineers’ charges tend to be high – understandably ‘cos they must spend so much time stuck in traffic. So it’ll be me or the WEEE centre. On that basis – and given it looks to me to be a bit of a pig of a job – any and all pointers would be very welcome. If only (what seems to be crucial from reading round this forum and elsewhere) whether the belts on these machines are best tackled from the back or the front?
July 22, 2010 at 10:20 am #325863iadom
ModeratorRe: Replacing jockey wheel on Creda T632CW condensing tumble
To change the belt you have to remove both sides, remove the two side bars at the top and the front will fall forward. You have to then remove the drum to access the inner fan cowling to allow the belt to be removed.
Do not remove the front panel altogether and leave the back well alone.
Your problems will start when you try to put it back together. 😉
If you can get another pair of hands to help at this stage it would be advisable.
The belt you have linked to is the correct one BTW.
You are better off repairing this machine than buying a new one, its better made than most of the mid to lower range machines on the market these days.
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