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  • #5628
    Ray9500
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    This subject may have been covered already, so apologies if i missed it..
    how do you approach washing machines and dryers in bathrooms/shower rooms.
    I know what the regs state but i wondered how people dealt with it in the real world?

    curiously
    Ray

    #112484
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    In the real world I’ve found that there’s little can be done.

    All you can do is tell the customer, note it on the jobsheet and note it in the PC that they’ve been told. At least that way you have some evidence that you told them to rectify it.

    K.

    #112485
    eastlmark
    Moderator

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    All I know is that as of 5 years ago or so, Hotpoint engineers were instructed to turn around and walk out it they came across this. Dont know if that is still the case.
    Its differrent for us who need to cover our costs so I ditto Kens words, write on the invoice that you recommend that the appliance must be moved and not operated in that position and get the customer to sign the statement. No doubt we would still be liable in the event of an accident though.

    #112486
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    For one I know that L.G.’s stance on this subject is that they have NO problems at all and petyer butts answer to this question was … 🙄 “” So where’s the problem “” 🙄 .

    #112487
    Penguin45
    Participant

    If I remember the Building Regs correctly there is nothing to prevent appliances being put into bathrooms, provided they are hard wired, ie no plug and socket.

    Penguin.

    #112488
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    Yep but L.G. was informed of the extention lead that was running right across in front of the bath and sink 🙄 the song Were having chicken tonight comes to mind.To which I refused to carry out any repair to it.and then got told off for not repairing it. 😈

    #112489
    Martin
    Participant

    Penguin45 wrote:nothing to prevent appliances being put into bathrooms, provided they are hard wired, ie no plug and socket.

    Correct! with a 30amp ceiling pull switch and full earth bonding!

    Martin

    #112490
    andy_art_trigg
    Participant

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    It should also be protected by an RCD

    #112491
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Yeah right, the number of correctly installed appliances I’ve seen in a bathroom…ehm, none!

    Trailing socket every time, though I did see one that a supposed spark had put on a bit of 2.5 T&E tacked to the wall with a socket on the wall. Impressed I wasn’t.

    K.

    #112492
    Scotty
    Participant

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    If I remember the Building Regs correctly there is nothing to prevent appliances being put into bathrooms, provided they are hard wired, i.e. no plug and socket.

    By Appliances I would assume, unless the regulations have changed drastically, in the last few years, the regulations mean a fixed appliance, designed for the purpose which of course in any case, would have to be, a certain distance from the bath or shower. Under no circumstances, I would say, a washing machine, could be considered as a suitable appliance for a bathroom. Operating the supply via a pullcord or spur does not make a washing machine a fixed or suitable appliance.

    #112493
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    You may like to download this. Amdea are the “ASSOCIATION OF MANUFACTURERS OF DOMESTIC APPLIANCES” of which I believe LG are a member.

    http://amdea.org.uk/bath1.1.pdf

    Dave.

    #112494
    Ray9500
    Participant

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    Thanks for that Dave.

    So it seems you can have a washing machine pretty close to a bath as long as the electrical side of it complies 😕


    Ray

    #112495
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    And when the machines flood, what better place for it to happen, than in the bathroom eh? 😉

    Talking of floods and stuff, those of you guys with swimming pools, an absolute ‘must have’ is underwater speakers 8) How the hell I managed to swim around my pool without a ‘hydrophonic sound system’ I will never know 8)

    I Installed a simple 4 speaker ‘Neptune’ (get it… 8) )system this season from these guys:-
    http://www.kelsound.co.uk/cat3.htm
    and I swim around to my ‘Ipod’ plugged into my sound system, stuffed full of great tracks….!!

    If you have never heard ‘Dido’ from the deep blue before you don’t know what your missing pal 😀 Get out in the back garden and start digging, there’s enough of the season left 😉

    Oh and always advise your customer to shut the bathroom door whilst the machines are banging away (additional safety precautions) ‘Cos you never know….?? 😉

    Martin

    #112496
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    Martin wrote:If you have never heard ‘Dido’ from the deep blue before you don’t know what your missing pal 😀 Get out in the back garden and start digging, there’s enough of the season left 😉

    Are you not too old to be listening to Dido? 😉 😆

    K.

    #112497
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Appliances in bathrooms

    kwatt wrote:Are you not too old to be listening to Dido? 😉 😆

    Listening to her underwater is a pleasurable sensation even for an old codger like me. Keeps my ardour cool too, which aint a bad thing either 😉

    Martin

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