ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

Re: ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

As a starting point could you give us the product number from your Zanussi. This will allow comparisons to be made to what new machine will be best for you.

The product number is on a sticker inside the door. starts with a 9.

Thanks.

Re: ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

for our simple needs

Your machine is 1200 spin with a 6kg load. Its not to older model & your bearings are failing already with low usage. So theres an answer there for you.

Theres no right or wrong. How much do you want to spend, will you use the larger capacity drum, would you like a faster spin???

The bearings in the ISE are far superior to your Zanussi plus you can always fall back on the 10 years guarantee so I wouldn’t worry on that account.

If you were to tumble dry 1200 spun items compared to 1600 spun there is a saving which will counteract the other costs you listed.

Re: ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

Ken, who specced the machine, will probably give you a better answer, but there’s two primary differences between an 8kg ISE10 and an 8kg domestic machine, e.g. Hotpoint or similar: –

– With Hotpoints, if you buy an 8kg machine you simply buy a larger drum. All the components, e.g. suspension, bearings, remain exactly the same – basically, as cheaply engineered as possible whilst still doing the job. This means that they almost inevitably fail pretty quickly. The ISE10 is a “semi-commercial” machine, with engineering to match. This means the beefed up suspension and bearings are over-engineered to handle the extra capacity and higher spin speed.

– Likewise, unlike some cheap domestic 8kg machine, where the drum is just a “stretched” 6kg design, the ISE10 has a specially designed drum which gently pushes the washing into the centre of the drum whilst agitating it, making for a better wash. The new ISE10 is meant to be even better than Miele’s “Honeycomb” drum because it has special traps allowing grit & grass to escape, which is the common complaint about Miele’s drums. Quite simply – a lot of thought has gone into the design because in the end you’ll be using this for 20+ years so it’s important that it washes properly.

Having said all that, a 8kg drum only makes sense if you are going to use the extra capacity. If you find your current machine more than ample capacity wise, then stick with that.

Re: ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

Hi Mark,

The machines should be in our warehouse week commencing 9th November, we hope they will be there on the 5th but I can’t 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} guarantee it right now. As soon as we have a definitive date we won’t hesitate in letting everyone know.

Any pre-ordered machines will take priority and be basically dispatched as soon as is humanly possible, in other words, as soon as they go live on the stock system. We’re having to do this as there’s a few people been waiting for the new machine for a number of weeks now but all the pre-orders we have will be fulfilled as things stand right now with stock in hand as we’ve managed to persuade/coerce/beg the factory to make more than we originally had planned at that point.

We’ve actually been beavering away in the background trying to arrange a special overland run to get them here sooner but we don’t know how that’s going to go just yet.

The problem with the sea option is the run from Sweden takes the boats to Iceland then down to the UK (I don’t get it either) which can cause issues on shipping times, so we’re trying to insure against that basically.

It does all come down to shipping.

You’d think that it was an easy thing to sort out but there you go.

I spoke to the factory today and everything from that end is tickety boo and on schedule. So, we know that the machines will be ready 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} for sure.

In short, the delivery date can move a few days here of there but it shouldn’t be by too much. What I don’t want to do is promise an absolute date then it doesn’t happen bang on because the French blockade the channel in protest, Iceland freezes over or blows up and so on. 😉

quickwash, yes the machine does indeed have a smart fill, it only uses the water that it has to so it automatically determines a small or large load or anything in between and adjusts and compensates as it operates. This in turn, because you only use what you need, means that you reduce the electricity requirement as, by a huge margin, the electricity used heating water is the single largest use of power. But from a use point of view it’s dead simple… put in laundry, add detergent, select program (if it isn’t the same as the last one you did, if it is the same, skip “select program”), close door, press start… done.

The idea is to make what really is a dull chore as efficient, simple and hassle free as is humanly possible. For a long time.

HTH

K.