Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

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  • #5889
    maustrap
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    Sorry for double post – thought I was signed in…

    I have looked first in other threads but cannot see the answer to my particular problem, so here goes…

    I have managed to dismantle the relevant parts so the I am now at the stage where I need to remove the (visibly) defective bearings from the plastic back plate. I have removed the drum and spider with shaft so I can see right through.

    Which direction do I ‘drift’ out the bearings from ? the rear (belt drive side) or the front (drum and spider side). There is what looks like the seal on the ‘front’ opening.

    Also for ‘drifting’ (hope thats the right term!) I have a piece of metal pipe which is roughly the diameter of the ‘inner’ piece of the ‘rear’ bearing.
    As I have not removed the seal at the ‘front’ I’m not sure of the diameter of the ‘front’ bearing. I also have what was sold to me as as a ‘drifter’ which basically looks like ‘ye old nail punch’ but bigger, square sided with a flat face on the pointy end. Am I safe to use these to remove the bearings ?

    If I manage to get the bearings out what do I need to order and where from ? Looking at other posts I assume I need all the bits of a ‘bearing replacement kit’ which includes seals etc ?

    Again from looking at other posts this is, I assume, a basically ‘do or die’ attempt as the cost of a pro repair would not make sense as the machine is not worth that much.

    Normally I do pay for repairs but lately I have been ripped off so many times by garages, TV repair shops and the shop who sold me this (allegedly reconditioned) washer that I don’t have the cash left or the patience to get a pro in on this.

    Any help and advice greatly appreciated.

    #114414
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    maustrap wrote:Sorry for double post – thought I was signed in…

    No problem, deleted for you 😀

    maustrap wrote:Any help and advice greatly appreciated.

    One bearing comes out one way and the other the other way. i.e. The rear bearing needs to be knocked out towards the rear and vice-versa for the other one.

    The bearing kit for the machine is £18.50 inc VAT and postage, if you would like one ordered and sent on to you, drop me an email.

    Regards

    Dave.

    #114415
    maustrap
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    Dave_Conway wrote:
    One bearing comes out one way and the other the other way. i.e. The rear bearing needs to be knocked out towards the rear and vice-versa for the other one.

    The bearing kit for the machine is £18.50 inc VAT and postage, if you would like one ordered and sent on to you, drop me an email.

    Regards

    Dave.

    Thanks for the very fast response and modding Dave, I will certainly order the kit from you when I have the old ones out. 😀

    Any more tips on removing the old ones ? I have already doused them with WD40. I’m presuming it makes more sense to try and remove the ‘back’ bearing first ? and does it matter if the ‘front’ seal gets trashed ?
    I’m learning fast but I’ve never removed bearings before so any newbie tips will not be wasted.

    cheers,

    Russ aka maustrap

    #114416
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    maustrap wrote:Does it matter if the ‘front’ seal gets trashed ?

    Not at all, in fact the front seal is most likely the cause of the failure!….The ‘Bearing Kit’ comes with a new seal anyway. 😉

    Make sure the Drum Shaft, especially the ‘collar’ that accomodates the water seal, is clean and unmarked. Otherwise reassembly would be pointless without fitting a new inner drum shaft as well 😉

    Martin

    #114417
    maustrap
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    Martin wrote:
    Not at all, in fact the front seal is most likely the cause of the failure!….The ‘Bearing Kit’ comes with a new seal anyway. 😉

    Make sure the Drum Shaft, especially the ‘collar’ that accomodates the water seal, is clean and unmarked. Otherwise reassembly would be pointless without fitting a new inner drum shaft as well 😉

    Martin

    Thanks Martin, impatience got the better of me and both *insert expletive* bearings are now out! Without Dave’s info about which way to tap them out I’d have been at it forever. Thinking about it now, it should have been common sense but I’m a bit short of that obviously! 🙄

    As luck would have it the front seal came off with the ‘front’ bearing after I removed a circular ‘spring ring ?’ from inside it. But its going in the bin anyway.

    I’ve just checked the collar on the drum shaft and it looks ok. No deep grooving or pitting. Its got a fine layer of rust and detritus on it but under that it seems fine. The washer has been out of commision for a while. I’ve got some fine ‘wet n dry’ paper, would that be ok to clean things up with ?

    Many thanks again to you both!

    *glugs celebratory beer* 8)

    #114418
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    maustrap wrote:The washer has been out of commision for a while. I’ve got some fine ‘wet n dry’ paper, would that be ok to clean things up with ?

    No! No!

    If the shaft and collar is unmarked a smearing from an oily rag is good enough 😉

    Grease up the new bearings and water seal on reassembly (just a smear though)

    Martin

    #114419
    maustrap
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    Martin wrote:
    No! No!

    If the shaft and collar is unmarked a smearing from an oily rag is good enough 😉

    Grease up the new bearings and water seal on reassembly (just a smear though)

    Martin

    Cheers! what kind of grease do I need to use ? 😳

    #114420
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Preferably black graphite stuff, the messy high heat stuff but as a rule you need only a tiny amount, if any at all.

    K.

    #114421
    eastlmark
    Moderator

    kwatt wrote:Preferably black graphite stuff, the messy high heat stuff but as a rule you need only a tiny amount, if any at all.

    K.

    check between the lips of the new seal. it may already be loaded with grease and, if you use black grease, make your first wash a dark one ❗ or better still a real hot wash empty.

    #114422
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Sorry, years of doing Candy is now showing isn’t it? 😆

    When I said a tiny amount I meant a smear around the edge, no more.

    K.

    #114423
    maustrap
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    Thanks for the info kwatt and eastlmark.

    I must say that its great to know that people on this site are so willing to help.

    Have a great weekend! 😀

    #114424
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    Hold Up Guys!

    Point of order here? “Black Graphite Grease?”…..Surely that is a stable normal ambient temperature, long lasting lubricant for hinges, pivots, springs and sliding mechanisms?

    Drum Bearings and Water Seals however ultimately require a synthetic (Silicone type) grease that does not corrode or perish rubber based products and has high temperature capabilties. Especially these days with the high spin speed demands put on them?

    Martin

    Willing to back to school if need be?

    #114425
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Na Martin I use it cause it is almost impervious to heat and I use it on damper pads, oven hinges etc. anyway. But I started using it because of the old Candy centrifrugal (sp?) pulley system, it just sems to do the job without any problems and it can be used most sparingly.

    Been doing it for 20 years with no issues so I’m guessing it’s pretty much okay. 😉

    K.

    #114426
    maustrap
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    Hi again,

    I now have the bearings (cheers Dave!) but i’m having trouble buying suitable synthetic (silicone) grease. Everywhere seems to sell Lithium based but not Silicone ? Is Lithium based ok to use ? or Black Graphite ?

    I called into a washing machine spares place and they said they have never used anything but normal grease for this and kindly gave us a blob in a bag for free (clear honey coloured thick stuff). Very nice of them, but I don’t want to have to do this ALL again in a few months! 😥

    Halfords were very nice on the phone and said they had some! So I drove around and they then did an about face and said they didn’t know if the Castrol grease they were selling me was synthetic…. 👿 They denied having any data sheets that would identify what was in the various greases they had for sale. I would have thought that COSHH (sp?) regulations meant that they had to have them…

    Anyway I wasted an afternoon on the phone and driving around in the blazing sun for jack…

    Any advice on what to buy, what its called and where to buy it will be gratefully accepted…

    cheers, have a great weekend… 😉

    #114427
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: Indesit W103 UK Washing Machine bearing removal

    Use the blob in the bag, it’ll be fine 😉

    Dave.

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