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Just delivered and installed my first 1607w and here are a few of my first impressions, anyone who knows me will be well aware i am a big fan of Asko and have looked after and sold their products for what seems like a lifetime and well before ISE came on the scene.
Although I have not had a top or back off one of these yet, whats inside the box does not appear a great deal different to the previous models and although the front looks completely changed, the principles are the same as before, no door seal, door hinged on to drum (and what a hinge it is!).
The huge long 15mm bolts for the packing are a surprise (although thanks for the warning to bring a 15mm socket inside with me from someone on here) and the plastic plugs to fill the holes are either too big to fit the pair of lower holes or too small to fit in the top hole and as for the key to open the door in an emergency….that is just going to get lost or discarded as a piece of waste packing and the instructions are not at all clear about where to stick it in to open the door, I did work it out eventually.
My only missgiving has to be the power switch……I got the feeling this was not a real power switch by the feel of it and so hooked up my clamp meter and unfortunatly it is drawing 20ma even when swtiched off so I guess a transformer or something is still in circuit. A backward step I feel and cannot understand why this is now the trend (not only ISE), yet in all other areas, manufacturers go to great lengths to save energy. I used to use the “hard” on off swtich of the previous model as a selling point.Hi
I found the rubber bungs do go in the holes if you spray them with wd40 then push them in hard with a philips screwdriver.I agree with you about the key to open the door, it wont be long before we need to open the door but the customer has lost it.
What else can we use as a substitute?, just dont want to scratch the paint work using something else.
Re: just delivered 1st 1607
kladave wrote:Hi Mark
Iv’e tried but failed to open the door …whats the knack??
Dave
first, find the slot, its alongside the door handle and you may need to pull the drum over slightly to see it.
then insert the narrow end of the “tool” into the bottom of the slot and simply move the tool in an upward direction. bingo!Re: just delivered 1st 1607
eastlmark wrote:
My only missgiving has to be the power switch……I got the feeling this was not a real power switch by the feel of it and so hooked up my clamp meter and unfortunatly it is drawing 20ma even when swtiched off so I guess a transformer or something is still in circuit. A backward step I feel and cannot understand why this is now the trend (not only ISE), yet in all other areas, manufacturers go to great lengths to save energy. I used to use the “hard” on off swtich of the previous model as a selling point.
Think this point is an issue that needs addressing, since lots of customers have energy meters now, this has been mentioned to me a couple of times now from ISE10 customers. Would also make it a good selling point if a complete on off switch was re introduced.
the subject has even been talked about on one of my car related forums:from pistonheads.co.uk:
This isn’t the first time I’ve seen this. I did a cost survey of our major appliances a while back using a power meter and I found my (then) washing machine took 17 watts switched off and empty with the door open. It was ten years old so I suspected it was a fault. Now I have a new one, different make and model, and it takes 20 watts under the same circumstances. The first one was a Hoover AB130 (mechanical timer) and the current one is a Beko WM6355W (electronic programmer). Any ideas? It seems to me that unplugging chargers and the like is futile if appliances consume when they are ostensibly off.Re: just delivered 1st 1607
the only reason(s) i can think of is cost in manufacturing. a double (or single for that matter) switch is more costly than a ‘soft on/off’ switch, faster pcb on time or does it have something to do with protecting the board from potential arching of contacts on a traditional switch when turned on? there is a definite answer for this, im sure asko will tell ken if he asks 🙂 worth the question imo
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