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Hi all,
I am still having fun with this FF – no I don’t stammer – it stands for Fridge/ Freezer.Mine is a type – FR SS 36AF20/2A+ Model Number 858619015012.
I understand that this is a 2006 model.
When it first brokedown I had Whirlpool out and the man fitted a new back control box but after about a month the problems returned.I last posted on here Mon July 10th 2010, since then I have had to carry out a manual defrost about every 3 -4 weeks because of the freezer icing up.
So far I have had fitted, 1) new back control box (no change) 2) A kit with the capcitors and relays from Brodders fitted in the new back control box (no change). 3) New Auto Defrost sensor fitted (still no change).
The symptoms that I am getting are:
First I manual defrost (totaly free of the build up of ice of on the eveaporator).
Start fridge freezer up.
A few hrs later display shows -18 freezer & +5 for the fridge.The fridge then slowly freezes everything in it, juice, milk, beer, butter,cheese etc etc.
Freezer freezing well – all seems ok, internal temp in freezer measured as -18 to -20.
Fridge internal temp measured at 0 deg.The fridgefreezer operates like this for about 4 weeks then I start to notice that the internal temp of the fridge starts to warm up very slowly over a few days to about +10 and then to as high as +23 deg if I let it go on.
I would normally carry out a manual defrost around +10 deg showing on the internal temp of the fridge.
I don’t suffer with any of the flashing panel lights, clicking relays, spurting water delivery that I have read about since page 1 of this subject.
My ice maker has not worked since 2009 but the whirlpool man said that it needed a complete new unit fitting. I hope to do this if I can sort the fridge and the freezer aspect first.I really would like to beat this, but I simply don’t have the expertise – so I write this post and hope that somebody out there can help.
If I am not able to sort the problem I intend to take the beast apart with a chain saw while filming it for U tube.
Can anybody help please.
Dave Nottinghami noticed you havent mentioned the defrost heater at all in your post…. have you checked this with a suitable meter at all?
sometimes, the faults more simple than you realise
Re: Whirlpool FF still giving problems
Thanks for the reply, sorry I have been off line for a few days.
You are correct I neglected to say that during previous investigations I removed the heater eliment and carried out a test to confirm continuity of circuit using a meter, lathough I have since been advised that I could have run 240v through it to test if it heats up. I am not an electrical engineer and did not like the sound of doing that however I am now questioning if I should futher test the eliment.
I am receipt of some support and advice from ‘Brodders’ but I have been slow in acting on suggestions due to work pressure and working hours.
I realy do appreciate ANY suggestions or guidence. I am also happy to pay a sensible rate to any local engineer who can sort it for me but I won’t go to Whirlpool.I have vowed however, that if I can’t get the beast to run as it should I will take a chain saw to it and put the video on U tube and e-mail a copy to Whirlpool – I am really disgusted with them.
Creamytash – NottinghamRe: Whirlpool FF still giving problems
Update on my last.
I had previously carried out a ‘continuity of circuit test’ on the heater eleiment and so new it was intact.
I have been blessed with having made contact with a really nice, patient and knowledgeable guy who goes by the handle ‘Broddersbaldrick’ he has been helping me along through a process of elimination(see e-bay).
1st – on his advice I fitted a kit of relays and capacitors to the back control box – this did not appear to have any visable effect on function of FF – but I do believe this action eradicated any suspect items on the Back Control Box, meaning that the next stage could be moved onto knowing that the relays and caps were good.
2nd – on the symptoms persisting and on advice of BB, I purchased a new ‘Defrost Sensor’ at a price of £97(ouch). I did a manual defrost delved into the back of the freezer section removing all I needed to access this part. I fitted the new part, put everything back and fired up the BEAST as I now call it. The BEAST went mad – freezing not only the freezer compartment but the fridge compartment too – including cartons of orange juice frozen like a brick.After running like this for about 3 weeks the fridge area started to warm up again – BU99ER it – £97 spent, all that work and 3 weeks later back to square one.
I had no choice but to carry out a further ‘Manual Defrost’. having done this I fired the BEAST up yet again. This time I installed 2 fridge thermometers(1 in each compartment). the freezer froze down to -18 as showing on the front LED panel. The fridge chilled down to +6 as showing on the front LED panel – to my suprise and amazement the internal thermometers also read the same temps. I have observed the temps of the fridge and freezer compartment every day for the past 3 weeks and all appears STABLE —–WOW.NO freezing of the fridge area and so far NO warming up of the fridge area.
I can’t explain or understand why but there we have it.I now hope to tackle the ice maker that has not worked for over 2 years.
I only hope that in doing this I don’t upset the gains I have made with the fridge freezer function.
I take my hat off to ‘Broddersbaldrick’ thanks again John.David Ross(Nottingham)
Re: Whirlpool FF still giving problems
Hi everybody,
firstly I want to say that without this site I would have got know where with repairing my Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer. Please go to the beginning and follow my thread to get the history of my problem with this appliance. This site was instrumental in bringing me into contact with ‘Brodders Baldrick’ who has worked tirelessly to help me get this appliance working as it should do – John, for the record you are a true wizard and in my opinion a very switched on cookie.My Fridge Freezer is now fully working for the first time since 2008 and yes the ice maker IS now fully working.
Once brodders had sorted the problem with the back control box and the fridge and the freezer was functioning correctly he suggested that I remove the ice maker and send it to him. Brodders then checked over the ice maker and found a fault which he repaired and mailed the ice maker back to me. I fitted it and it works perfectly. I believe that the part Brodders fitted cost pennies where as the Whirlpool ‘Engineer'(and I use this term loosely) quoted me £300 for a new ice maker just before he wrote my freezer off and cancelled my insurance with Dom & Gen.
I now have a Whirlpool American fridge Freezer that works as it should, ice maker and all.
I can’t thank Brodders enough for what he has done to help me and I feel that I MUST tell everyone on this site what an amazing guy he is.
If you are having a problem with a Whirlpool Fridge Freezer I would strongly advise you to get in contact with Brodders Baldrick, he is helpful to talk to, very skilled and his costs are very realistic. He can be found on e-bay and I believe he is still around on this site also.My personal e-mail address is > groundrushed@yahoo.co.uk < if anyone would like to contact me. I will also help you to link up with Brodders Baldrick.
David Ross Nottingham
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