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Hi What certificates/training would i need to be able to work on gas cookers …Not bothered about gas fires etc just cooking appliances..Any info links etc would be appreciated.
Thanks
Shaun
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In Google type Corgi Gas Training and there’s loads of training courses across the land to choose from. 🙂
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Martin wrote:In Google type Corgi Gas Training and there’s loads of training courses across the land to choose from. 🙂
I did Martin and found loads 😀 ..I wanted to know what certificates i would need for just gas cookers ..not bothered about other stuff like boilers etc ..so don’t want to waste money on a course that deals with stuff i am not bothered about 😉
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shaun67 wrote:
Martin wrote:
In Google type Corgi Gas Training and there’s loads of training courses across the land to choose from. 🙂I did Martin and found loads 😀 ..I wanted to know what certificates i would need for just gas cookers ..not bothered about other stuff like boilers etc ..so don’t want to waste money on a course that deals with stuff i am not bothered about 😉
In an ideal world we could point you in the right direction. unfortunatly the reality is that you cannot get a certificate to work just on cookers. In simple terms you need to pass a core gas course exam that encompasses all other aspects of gas work and very little on cookers. Even then, its not so easy as you need a portfolio of experience to demonstrate your competence.
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Thank you eastlmark ,seems I’ll have to miss out the gas cookers 🙁 seems a lot of catch 22’s with gas .. reading some of the topics.
Shaun
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shaun67 wrote:seems a lot of catch 22’s with gas .. reading some of the topics.
Too right there are Shaun and if the appliance is in any way connected to a gas supply and you aren’t a Gas Safe card holder then don’t touch it…!
I suspect there’s loads of indies out there blissfully ignorant of the regulations regarding gas appliances. That fix dual fuel cookers (fan elements and such) on a regular basis regardless. It’s not worth the risk, the fines are severe and the potential consequences can be tragic. 🙁
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I have just spoken to the GAS SAFE tecnical department , and they say it is perfectly safe to carry out electrical work on a gas/dual fuel appliance and even disconnect the bayonet fitting to gain access the appliance,as long as no other part of the gas system is touched.As disconnecting the bayonet fitting is not considered as part of the gas system.
Mike
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Hi Washman,
What you said is not quite correct, and it is also one of the rules that mystifies me.
If you are not Gas safe registered, and are working in a customers house, you cannot disconnect a bayonet fitting from a gas cooker to effect a repair. The customer can disconnect the hose and then reconnect it after you are finished with the electrical side of the appliance.
John
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Er…….does that mean us non gas trained men CAN now work on dual fuel etc. Since reading previous posts on UKW I’ve turned down lots of calls on these in the last couple of years???
Tony
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There is nothing to stop anyone who is not Gas Safe registered from doing electrical or cosmetic work on a gas appliance as long as during the course of this work you do not disconnect any gas bearing component.
If you need the gas hose to be disconnected during the repair it is fine if the customer unplugs the hose and reconnects it but you cannot do it at any time if you are not Gas Safe registered.
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Is this correct? I am gas trained and if like all electrical calls you safety check at the beginning and end of job ,you must also do the same checks on the gas side,even if you are not checking gas pressures you still must check for correct flame pictures appliance controlfunctions etc,,if they are not right how does a non trained engineer carry out repair? is it a case of “sorry you must get a gas engineer in to do it” not very happy customer me thinks!!
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Again, this is becoming boring.
To become qualified you’ll need to sit
CCN1-Core Domestic Gas Safety Criteria, then you’ll need
CKR1-Install, Exchange,Disconnect, Service, Repair, Breakdown and Commission Domestic Gas Cooking Appliances.Any Competent person can repair a dual fuel appliance providing no gas joint/fixing/component is removed, undone, replaced or disturbed.
So its perfectly safe to replace an electrical component on a gas appliance.
A Gas Engineer is deemed competent and therefore required to check FSD function etc etc, but a non competent person is not required to as there not responsible in law for any issue if they have not carried out any work beyond their competences.
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If You Were The last engineer to touch the Gas Appliance and something goes badly wrong and you dont have Gas Safe registration (even if only doing a electrical Job) you could well find yourself with a lot of explaining ….Re: working on gas cookers information
barneyb wrote:you could well find yourself with a lot of explaining ….
My thoughts entirely……..plus, not being gas trained/qualified/proficient you are NOT in a position to correctly test the full functionality of the appliance. NOT qualified to check that the appliance and the room in which it stands is correctly ventilated. NOT able to carry out basic manometer leak tests. NOT able to provide the user/customer with a written ‘safety report’. Do NOT have to powers to isolate the gas supply should any of the above be deemed unsafe.
lee8 wrote:So its perfectly safe to replace an electrical component on a gas appliance
Phew!…That’s alright then…… :rolls:
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As you are not qualified by law you cannot be responsible in law for missing the incorrect location of the appliance etc, the responsibility is that of the installer or the last Competent Person who worked on the appliance, the client also has a responsibility to insure a competent person works on the appliance, but as with all things legal, not always enforced.
Don’t listen to Myths, that is why so many so called Competent People fail to understand the basics.
As for the doom that will happen.
3 months ago I attended a range appliance that had a gas leak, the owner called a Gas qualified engineer who was a friend of a friend, he identified the appliance as being the cause of the leak, didn’t isolate the appliance, the client had kept the kitchen window open during the day, to be safe.
She contacted Gas Safe for advice, I got called to the appliance, done the report etc.
No receipt was left, client paid £65.00 call out, No Notice issued, no Supplier contacted, no warning labels attached, Nada.
Gas Safe guy is still registered, was given a warning and instructed to retrain within 6 months.
Gas Safe need further powers to be effective.
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