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Hi all,
I’ve a three years old Miele w1613 it’s showing a drain fault when it tries to drain. It gets a punishing amount of use and not much attention.. 😳 . I’ve checked the filter, the flexible drain hose and the pipe at the join where the hose meets the outlet (it uses one of those combo / shared outlets as we’ve a dishwasher). Both the filter and the combo unit inlet were a bit blocked with crud, so I cleaned them thoroughly.
I also ran two lots of descalent through the machine, the second left over night with the machnine switched off mid-drain, so it would hopefully clean more crud from the affected parts, then checked the filter and hose again.
Switched it on again this morning and it drained the main wash cycle ok, but when it got to drain the first rinse it showed a drain fault again. You can hear the pump running, and water draining, but as it empties, there is a rattling sound like a marble or something bouncing around or touching the pump vanes. I can’t see or feel anything in the filter or filter housing. Removing the filter when the fault (switching off / unplugging first) shows there is still some water in the machine at that point, though not much. I’ve tried switching programmes to “spin” to get it to drain the remainder, and the rattling sound is still there and continuous right to the end of the cycle, as if the maching is still trying to drain water out. It only seems to rattle once most of the water has drained.
I’ve unblocked other machines but never looked underneath a miele – what else can I do to try and sort this out? Any suggestions gratefuly received.Adrian.
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There is always a little water left in every machine.From what you say it sounds like you may have something impeding the pump.The only way to check would be to take the pump off and check.PLUG OUT first.
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The outlet pipe was also a bit clogged up, and the hose so I’ve flushed both through. It’s not made any difference so like you say it looks like I’ll be getting to grips with the pump. I suspect some of the internal pipework from the pump to the hose is still clogged up (the stub where the hose attaches was well gunged up). Any pointers on how to approach this job? I can see that the underside is not open so I reckon I may have to remove back and/or side panels. It’s bloomin’ heavy – can I safely rest it on it’s back without those transport poles in place or will there be damage from the drum moving about?
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hi
unplug the machine,
remove the lid remove front facia and remove front panel,to gain access to hoses and pump
steveRe: Miele w1613
I did manage to get the maching to run through one full cycle, but it didn’t seem to do this unless I drained all the water out by remving the filter – but I think this might have just been coincidence. Next try I got “Fault F51”.
Removing the lid, I got stuck at the first hurdle. From what I can see, the lid is attached by four screws, one on each side and two at the rear.
I removed all of these, but couldn’t shift the lid by lifting or sliding toward the back. Am I missing something here? I didn’t want to use too much force without being sure about which direction it comes off in.Re: Miele w1613
hi
take out 2 side screws on lid then lift up the lid at the front
it will be very tight, pull upwards
steveRe: Miele w1613
Update. Managed to get the lid off – it was a bit tight Cheers Steve – then the control panel, front panel (remove the detergent tray first, then unscrew the door interlock, the big bolt under the door seal and the door seal retaining wire and top two fasteners) and finally the lhs side panel (you have to do them in that order).
That gives access to the drain pipe work, and a oblong box thing that is just in front of the drain outlet at the back of the machine, all of which I managed to remove and clean through. Most of the pipes were packed with grey gunge. The big pipe from the drum to the pump was stuffed full of needles, safety clips, earings a couple of 10p’s and various other bits and bobs. Once rusty needle was poking out through the wall of the pipe in two places.
There was one more pipe that runs from the back of the control panel down to the bottom of the tub and attaches to a grey plastic unit – looks like it is to do with water level control. Couldn’t see how to get this off. The pipe was clear, but when I reattached and tried blowing down it there was alot of resistance like the plastic unit was blocked – maybe a one way valve here or something?
Once everything was back in place, I restarted the machine, it started to fill then a water inlet fault showed and the machine drained. There was water under the tub hose, the tiny holes made by the needle in the main tub drain hose were leaking.Tried repairing the holes but couldn’t get bicycle rubber repair or anything else at home to stick, and wasn’t sure if silicon sealant would be up to the job. That hose must be 60 or 70 quid so I took it to a local garage and they used a car tyre repair kit on it for me.
Reattached the hose and restarted the machine. The machine started to fill, and then a water inlet fault showed – loads of water flooding out. The tub hose had come off as I’d not tightened it enough (I was worried about over tightening it)
Cleaned up, reattached everything properly, put water in the drum and no leak.
Put everything else back and switch on (Express cycle).
The machine seemed to fill too much, and then a water inlet fault showed and it drained.
There was no sign of a leak, but could that plastic unit at the bottom of the drum be blocked and stopping air getting to the control panel? Anyone know how to get that off or clean it out?
At least the tub hose repair held.Re: Miele w1613
Used one more load of descalent mixed with boiling water – job done, water level sensor pipe cleared.
I used Waitrose good value own brand descalent – looked and smelt like citric acid. I now notice the water inlet in the detergent tray is a bit blocked so that it’s not clearing all the detergent on a fill, so that will need to come off for a good clean also.
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