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Bacteria that is.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01684jk
Scroll down page and listen to chapter 6.
Mike.Re: Millions not dying due to low temperature washes.
Bad advice in that article.
Bio has no bleach? Like what the… ???
Washing with vinegar is as useful as farting at thunder and note the use of “I think”, in other words, I’m not sure/don’t know.
I’ll stand by what I’ve written on the subject. 😉
K.
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kwatt wrote:
I’ll stand by what I’ve written on the subject. 😉K.
Didn’t realise there was any conflict.
😕
Mike.Re: Millions not dying due to low temperature washes.
It’s me, I have an issue with some of the so-called “experts” that get wheeled out and then bang on about vinegar and stuff who very often haven’t a clue what they’re talking about.
We won’t die because of it no, but there is evidence to suggest (apparently) that it may have led to the spread of certain strains of virus, that’s what the report I saw was all about anyways.
K.
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Wasn’t it that same “expert” who was advocating a 60 wash once a week?
Mike.Re: Millions not dying due to low temperature washes.
I think the presenter said bio powder won’t kill germs, the professor recommended bleach, but said this would be called TAED on ingredients list and Aggie recommended 60 degree wash once a week. Vinegar was to get rid of smells. A bit confused overall, but at least the 60 degree advice is beneficial.
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True, but a 60?C wash should be used, as the scientist said, for bedding, towelling, underwear and so on, not on a schedule as such. 😉
Mixed messages that, as rightly pointed out, just confuse people.
K.
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There are 2 seperate issues here: –
1) Removing harmful bacteria from clothes at low temperatures.
2) Disinfecting washing machines.
In 1) only temperatures above 60deg will kill most harmful bacteria from clothing. Adding a bleach based product will help though isn’t necessarily a prerequisite.
In 2) Without doubt using vinegar as a disinfectant is a proven ingredient in combating iron/manganese water based bacteria and works fine as a service wash.
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I listened to that on the day and thought it good advice (re the 60c+ washing anyway}.
Do wonder sometimes, are we at risk of catching something from working on washing machines?Re: Millions not dying due to low temperature washes.
eastlmark wrote:
Do wonder sometimes, are we at risk of catching something from working on washing machines?Given the other risks I think this one is small enough to ignore.
Mike.Re: Millions not dying due to low temperature washes.
Depends on how long the washer / dishwasher has been stood still not working, and how personal you get with the drain pump contents… afterall, halloween’s on the way 😈
George
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We had an engineer back in the 80’s when the whole aids thing was pretty much in your face who wanted latex gloves. His reasoning being that he could catch this disease from pulling panties or whatever out a pump if he had an open cut as an example. I can’t say he was right or wrong but, it gave me pause for thought.
If you think about it, the risks can be quite scary.
I find it best not to think about it as goodness knows what pathogens are in some machines.
K.
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Well I did make an enquiry with the AIDS helpline a few years ago after working on a machine that was owned by an AIDS sufferer, I can say that I was told that, YES, you can contract HIV from that sort of item, but then, I can also ‘say’, not ‘confirm’, that tests have confirmed that legionella bacteria are prominant in washing machine waste water that has been standing for any amount of time, and that it is more likely that you will be hurt from this bacteria than the HIV virus in a washing machine.
George
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From Wikipaedia entry on Legionnaire’s :
“In 2010 a study by the UK Health Protection Agency reported that 20{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of cases may be caused by infected windscreen washer systems filled with pure water. The finding came after researchers spotted that professional drivers are five times more likely to contract the disease. No cases of infected systems were found whenever a suitable washer fluid was used.[17]”
So maybe you’re more at risk driving to the job. And please don’t squirt your windscreen washers when passing a cyclist!
Mike.
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