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April 26, 2012 at 4:34 pm #69159
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ParticipantHi,
Ive just had a call from a lady with a Beko/Lamona dishwasher HJA8362. She says it goes through the programme but doesnt heat.
Now if this was an electrolux/zanussi or even hotpoint indesit I would definitely say it was the PCB but up to now I haven’t had this fault on one of these beauties. (thank god)
Will it be the PCB or is there another common cause of this.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.As a side note, I’ve been out to a couple of these in the past month with water in the base. Emptied the water out and cant find a leak anywhere. One I’ve been back to, the other has worked perfectly. Is there another cause for this, ie blocked filter, oversoaping, loose spray arm collar?
Cheers
NickApril 26, 2012 at 5:37 pm #373909johnnyj
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Usualy a dry joint on the board, a new board or get the soldering iron out. JJ
April 26, 2012 at 5:46 pm #373910Seamy
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Check model it may be HDA8362 or HJA8361, heater has cut-outs in built, so basically if you put test meter on connections you would know if it was gone or not. Its controlled by a separate NTC which may be the cause for P.C.B skipping heating or relay connection fault, I would be inclined to replace P.C.B rather than soldering as they are very cheap.
Problem with water in base is sometimes caused by a blocked filter. There is’nt a pressure switch in most of these so they do a timed empty, if they were to then refill for rinse for instance it would count in 4 litres of water & would overfill in to base. Other cause is top spray arm feeder not locating correctly on top basket, top basket not allowing door to close tightly & leak down along door to base.April 26, 2012 at 10:54 pm #373911grooster
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All great advice guys. I’ll have a look at the pcb tomorrow. I’ve always tried to shy clear of the bekos so far but with howdens supplying them they’re becoming a lot more popular, so I thought I’d be better getting to know them a bit more.
The ones I’ve been to that have been leaking have all had clean filters, first thing I always looks for with having many hotpoint indesits overfilling. Granted the customer often cleans them before you get there, but the last one leaked after checking everything. Lasted 3 washes. Door did seem to fit ok. Didn’t notice anything particular but I will keep my eye open for it.
Again thanks for your help guys.
NickApril 28, 2012 at 8:36 am #373912grooster
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Just to update, the model was HJA8630, don’t ask me how she got the other number. I had a look at it yesterday and it is going through the cycle with no heat. Had a look at the pcb and there was no sign of dry joints. So I’ve ordered a pcb. Cant believe the price £11.64. You get what you pay for I suppose.
April 28, 2012 at 11:55 am #373913keithwilliams
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i work on tons of dishwashers and have found the Bekos to be ok. I’d have one before most of the other crap. when you say you get what you pay for, i think thats how much pcb should be or maybe a bit more, not the ludicrously overpriced parts for say Smeg where you definately DO NOT get what you pay for.
keithApril 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm #373914grooster
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I’d say £11.00 for a pcb is more than cheap. You would expect to pay £40/50 looking at it. I still dont know how a firm can manufacture a part like this, sell it on to a wholsaler, who them sell it on to us and still make a profit without the quality dipping somewhere along the line.
I too work on many dishwashers but tend to try and stay to the top end, bsh and Miele and shy away from the lower end beko, baumatic etc (Chinese) ones. I grant you the beko isn’t as bad as the others but I’m still not a fan.
NickApril 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm #373915keithwilliams
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look at what you get when buying computer parts. because they have to be compatable the competition is there and this drives the price down. white goods parts are expensive purely because the brand owner wants them to be. i dont think that at component level the quality is any better.
i say well done beko for fair pricing, and to be honest hoover dishwasher mods are reasonable as well at around £35.April 28, 2012 at 2:33 pm #373916keithwilliams
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an after thought. what about the poor quality of bosch boards, hence the recall and the dozens of them that ive had my soldering iron to.
anyway lets just agree to disagree.May 3, 2012 at 2:56 pm #373917grooster
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Just need a bit more advice on this machine if anybody can help.
I went back yesterday armed with a pcb and an ntc. To cut a long story short, have swapped both and its made no difference. The programme just skips straight through without heating on any settings. You get a live and neutral on the heater but only for a very short space of time. Very little heat, to the point where youre convinced its heating but 5/10 mins later its no different. Then it empties and goes onto the next sequence. Heaters reading fine by the way. Connectors are fine.
Any help would really be appreciated.
CheersMay 9, 2012 at 1:58 pm #373918BEKOBOY
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Hiya mate, you must have an NTC fault send me your email add and i will send you the the test programme
May 10, 2012 at 11:17 am #373919grooster
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Just a quick update. I went back to this machine yesterday, armed with another PCB and NTC. Decided to go back to basics and lo and behold a broken wire in the door. Obvious I know, but never expected it on an 18 month old beko. I’ve had a few in the new hotpoints and the odd one in a whirlpool but not a beko as of yet.
Bekoboy, a test programme for this machine would really be appreciated mate. I sent you a pm with my email on yesterday, if you would be so kind.
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