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  • #71306
    kwatt
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    Have a look at the comment at the bottom of the article from a member of the public…

    http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/abou … omment-803

    If true, does that mean that all Beko washing machines now have sealed tanks fitted?

    Not good if correct.

    K.

    #380677
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    kwatt wrote:Not good if correct.

    The days of bearing changes being confined to history becomes ever closer.

    #380678
    Madmac
    Participant

    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    I think it has been sealed drums all round with Beko stuff for a while now, looked at a 3 year old 8kg machine around 6 months ago, it had very fekked bearings and a very sealed outer drum 🙁

    #380679
    captaincaveman1
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    Tis true .I can remember replacing elements in russell hobbs kettles! And I remember my friends who had a TV repair shop repairing video recorders. Not good this is it I’ve a feeling our industry is to follow . 🙁

    #380680
    Martin
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    captaincaveman1 wrote:Not good this is it I’ve a feeling our industry is to follow . 🙁

    All manufacturers seek to have low production costs and high volume sales. Cheap clip on and hook up components giving a short life span………. Built to dump, cheap as chips. A market place where the likes of Beko hold steadfast and others strive to emulate. It is rumoured that they currently hold a 7{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} share in the market which is said to be on the increase year by year with their refrigeration side being even stronger.

    #380681
    funkyboogy
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    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    true martin , but ive got a feeling that even beko customers will think about buying beko again when they get hit with a £100 plus repair bill to replace a tub unit instead of £40 job or diy paddle fit, if their not insured then its another one in the dump. thought the wta were talking to government about this stuff ? ..
    ps if your doing contract work etc – you will find thats theres no bearing/tub job uplift on the type of job as well .. thanks beko – but then again you do keep us all busy with pumps , carbons etc ..lol

    #380682
    Martin
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    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    funkyboogy wrote:true martin , but ive got a feeling that even beko customers will think about buying beko again when they get hit with a £100 plus repair bill to replace a tub unit

    That sentiment would echo throughout most, if not all, makes of washer in pretty short order. Any right-minded person faced with such a high repair cost would reject it outright naturally. As is more the case over a range of replacement parts being so expensive coupled with a shorter life span. The public are getting more and more mindful of machines having ‘sealed drums’ and many are trying to avoid buying them. But, as most manufacturers are fitting them, they are faced with little choice but to buy a new machine from some other maker. And with scant regard toward its eventual lifespan. The up-shot being that more and more folks won’t even undertake any repair due to the costs inflicted. And will simply go out and buy another.

    I can only imagine the thinking behind manufacturers choosing to fit sealed drum units was made entirely to reduce cost. Manufacturing technology focussed on producing a cheap and efficient unit that would guarantee them a functional component but with limited life. Production of these units is now so far advanced that they (I wouldn’t doubt) have managed to cut production costs dramatically. Sadly these high tech sealed units are big bulky items that don’t lend themselves easily to becoming cheap, off the shelf, spare parts. So they will always be extortionately expensive to handle to a point of impracticality anyway.

    #380683
    eastlmark
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    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    Martin wrote:

    kwatt wrote:
    Not good if correct.

    The days of bearing changes being confined to history becomes ever closer.

    good. When it comes to plastic tubs. has anyone ever made a profit on bearing changes on a split plastic tub, doubt it.

    #380684
    Martin
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    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    eastlmark wrote:good. When it comes to plastic tubs. has anyone ever made a profit on bearing changes on a split plastic tub, doubt it.

    I wouldn’t mind betting that that would provoke many to answer yes to that question. But I for one saw the futility in such and undertaking and have never ever done one in fairness to my customers and my business logic. 😈

    #380685
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    Did a bearing change on an out of warranty ISE-5 CI555WH, last week.

    Still do one or two a week, mainly Hotpoint WM’s ( easy job ) and Hotpoint WMA’s more involved but a nice earner. 8) I still stock a WMA rear half & drum spider, around £70 cost to me, charge between £160/£170, all fitted and fully tested in an hour, done two of those in last three weeks.

    I love a good fettle. 😀

    Jim.

    #380686
    Martin
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    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    You must put forward convincing reasons why someone should shell out £170 to repair an ageing machine Jim. Folks down these parts wouldn’t even consider spending best part of 75{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} the cost of buying new. (apologies for straying a tad off topic by the way)

    #380687
    eastlmark
    Moderator

    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    I wont get into a “I am faster than you” type rant but when taking into account other jobs I could be doing while flaffing around trying to fit an old heater into a new tub or straining to lift a tub out without damage to either me, the appliance or its surroundings its not profitable, full stop. A complete welded tub for a Hotpoint is less than £20 more than your rear tub and spider and I sure know what I would rather be fitting.
    Of course, I would much prefer stainless tub and cast spider with decent front and rear access.

    #380688
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    75{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the cost of buying poor quality machines. I inform them of the cost of what I consider to be an decent ( not great ) machine, and also inform them of the likely early demise of anything under £250 and it is not hard to do with the more level headed, sensible Northeners I have as customers. 8)

    I forgot to mention that I also fitted four WM drum supports in the past week as well. They rot through so fast in this area that the bearings are not even needed 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the time.

    Jim.

    #380689
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    On the other hand Mark, the sealed tub Hotpoint’s have really crappy electronics so I have far more confidence in a WMA in decent nick than any of the Polish/Italian garbage they now sell.

    #380690
    funkyboogy
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    Re: Beko Sealed Tanks?

    i would say that a hell of a lot quicker doing full tub than spitting etc – so on a plus point good if speed is required ..

    has anyone had the pleasure of doing a beko split tub .. not the one with the front plate – i mean the one that splits in the middle

    NIGHT MARE

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