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    twicknix
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    8 years ago I was fitted a brand new kitchen using Ikea flat packs, my wife loved it, also purchased a fabulous Fagor Innova multifunction oven. This oven has a rotisserie which proved its worth thousand times over. It never let us down not even a blown element as I often get call out for blown elements on Bosch and more recently Zanussi and Belling. Now the oven is being temperamental with flashing lights on the display unit and switching itself off for no reasons. I can’t seem to get new parts for it as it is rare and the worse thing I have not been able for the last 5 years to get a new oven bulb that does not explode during the pyro cleaning as the temperature reaches more than 300deg. I keep forgetting to remove the oven bulb prior to switching the pyro setting. The bulb exploded and trips the electrics, this gets me every time. My biggest contributions from my van to my wife are the bulbs!

    More to the point, there aren’t many like for like replacement but I found this:
    CDA SV500SS Nine Function Electric Built In Single Oven in Stainless steel (SV500SS). I don’t recall being called out for repair to CDA ovens although I know they share Beko platform even with Beko I rarely get called out for. So I am asking my fellow learned friends for your expert opinion on this particular oven. My wife specifically asked for a rotisserie function along with pyro cleaning. Quite a tall order, the reason for this that the spit roast makes the oven filthy so it’s essential for the self cleaning to be carried out the next day.

    What are your thoughts?

    #382055
    DrDill
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    Re: The perks of buying new appliances at trade price for ‘e

    You cant really go by what you get called out to, most people with cheep appliances dont bother to call anyone out they just go out and buy another one, its probably thick with fat and grease and they are too embarrased to phone some one out.


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    #382056
    lee8
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    Re: The perks of buying new appliances at trade price for ‘e

    If your in the industry why you so bothered, at the end of the day its a metal box with a few components on it.

    Elements are made by element factories, PCB’s are made by electronic factories etc etc, CDA buy in goods from whoever fills their current requirements of looks and specs, usually for as cheap as poss. Chuck a load of well known makes in the air catch one and chances are it’ll have the same components on it as a CDA.

    Point being some Brands buy in components and assemble appliances or they buy crates full of already made stuff, CDA, Baumatic just buy in stuff already made.

    I think your looking at this from a common perspective many make, the actual components, motors etc where rarely developed and built in the factory of the brand, most just did the metal fabrication and assembly.

    Trying to source an appliance that rarely needs servicing was rare yrs ago, even more now.

    At the end of the day, how difficult is it to replace and element or fan motor or anything really on an oven.

    #382057
    DrDill
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    Re: The perks of buying new appliances at trade price for ‘e

    Thats not true at all, the better manufacturers dont use the same components as the cheeper barnds at all, and Lee8 you know that as you have most certainly worked on most brands.
    Heres a rule that willmostly work, “If its cheep it will on average breakdown sooner than a premium product, it wont work as well as a premium product, it will use cheeper components, parts will be difficult to get in a few years, and it will work out as poor value in the long run” The exception will be if you are buying the product for someone else to use and you dont care what trouble or value it will cause or have.

    #382058
    twicknix
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    Re: The perks of buying new appliances at trade price for ‘e

    I took the chance to investigate the fault of the Fagor HPM oven, at the time when it was new, it was at the higher end. Like some thread said premium made oven and the parts are difficult to get hold of.

    I have worked on lots of ovens of all makes but I have never came across one with electronics. Funny how this oven stood in my kitchen is the electronic oven over the last 8 years and it proved it was very reliable unlike the ovens I go out to see such as Bosch, Zanussi, Hotpoint which are basic set up using simple method of thermocouple that are often less than 5 years old. One housing estate no more than 5 years has Bosch oven installed at the same time, then roughly the same time I got a call out for their Bosch oven for replacing fan heater element and grill for most of the housing estate. Makes me wonder if they were fitted a faulty batch. It boils down to the build quality and prices are not a factor as most of us knew that, it’s the name they shell out for rather than quality.

    More to the point of the title of the perks for buying new appliances which turns out in the end the perks of buying parts at trade price for your loved one which it is much much cheaper than buying a new oven. In my case it is a case of a power card failure a mere £80 part possibly 2 to 3 weeks waiting order which is worthwhile compares with £500 for a like for like new oven CDA.

    Most of my client would write it off down to the age but in my case my wife loves the oven so much and is willing to have it rebuilt many times over. I wish all my clients are like that then what makes the job worthwhile and I would be quids in!

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