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re bosch dishwasher heater change

ive done a few where tank off to access part a real pain in the arsjjj… some of the new ones lets you access via base i prefer lying appliance on its side havent had any probs ..

i change a lot of washing machine pumps lying appliance on its side so much easier even with a wee drop water in them ,

i suppose the engineer is best person to assess the best way to approach job ..

ally

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Iv done it once with a sump on a Indesit as I just could not get it to stay in place before fitting the large ring that holds it on, I put washing machines on these side all the time to change suspension.

But as per the other thread there is no technical reason a fully drained dishwasher can’t be put on its head. Obviously a washer or drier its a whole kettle of fish but I know that some dishwashers are built upside down at the factory so what’s the difference.

These days with the low voltage pressure switches they don’t like any water and Iv learnt the hard way to disconnect the hose before tipping anyway on the newer Indesit EOS models. (Don’t tip right with out disconnecting trust me)

At the end of the day an engineer needs to do what ever they feel is required to complete the job.

Correct ppe and floor covering and your sorted.

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The block of wood lol.

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For all you upside- downers yet more Bosch tips on the easier way for all things Bosch HERE 😀

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Baumatics and most of the Haier products have a metal base, four small screws hold it in place on the older products, the newer ones are now plastic held in with clips and really the whole base is exposed allowing goods access to all components, I’ve seen several models branded Hotpoint/Indesit.

As for Martin, your comment

“Techs with syringes and hoses looking up I couldn’t figure”

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Makes no sense as I wrote

during several yrs on the road doing work for BSH with 10 calls a day no option, plus they provide Techs with syringes to removed sump water before.

As a general guide which frankly should be obvious, if a cover has screws/clips holding it in place it is designed for access and easy removal, if you need to crow bar your way in, generally its not designed to be removed, brands count screws/clips etc during the planning and design costing stage, and since screws cost money there generally only used for removable parts including panels.

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Martin wrote:Be that as it may I would like someone to explain the procedure adopted when deciding to change an Instantenious heater unit by flipping the machine upside down. Where do you start, what bits do you remove?? 😕

As requested.

‘Unplug’.
Remove top and sides.
Drain sump.
Invert.
Place small container to catch water under side chamber breather hole.
Remove plastic bottom front panel (if free standing).
Unscrew and pull forward lower front metal panel.
Remove door tension cords.
Undo 4 screws holding plastic base to frame.
Put screwdriver or similar through hole for float arm to lock it up in place.
Lift base enough to gain access.
Unclip the connector blocks in base can give more room.
Remove screws and wires/cable on instantaneous water heater.
Undo hose clip to pump.
Remove instantaneous heater.
Reassemble in reverse order.

When reassembling make sure the rubber motor straps are hooked on the pegs in the base and the red float shaft is located correctly.

Obviously protect the floor.

This method can be a bit fiddly when you lift the base up leaving the rest of the components on the tank, you wonder if it will go back down again but it’s easier than you imagine. It’s no worse than lifting and inverting the sump to remove the heater.

Using this method saves having to:

Remove Decor panel.
Remove Front panel.
Remove Door.
Removing upper/lower baskets.
Undo salt reservoir cap and large retaining nut.
Undoing top spray arm tube.
Removing Tank.
Deciding where the hell you’re going to put this lot in a small kitchen while trying to repair a dishwasher.

If you don’t have to take it apart you don’t have to put it back together. Admittedly there is a greater chance you may have to disconnect the inlet/drain hoses if inverting but not always.

Inverting the machine does not mean you lose the contents of the rinse aid or the entire contents of the regeneration unit (even with gravity).

I use both methods depending on the installation, kitchen size and what mood I’m in.

Martin, try it, you never know, it might not be the daftest thing you’ve ever heard!

Edit: Check base for foreign objects like copper olives. 😳

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Alex posted
“Perhaps therefore times and situations dictate the best means to solve a problem”
Sums it up really,I am probably past changing habits,I would be nervous if inverting a dishwasher even if all appeared drained that somewhere lies a hidden dribble which would find it’s way onto a pcb.
Have always put washers down on the side but years ago putting a Zanussi it on its side with soap draw upper most (mistake) cost me a timer after the water residue in a blocked soap draw found its way down onto timer pcb which I didnt realise until I test ran,too late by then !!