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Hotpoint Aqualtis AQXXD 169pm – Error code F1 came up. Machine fills with water, then lights start flashing and it then pumps out the water with the error code F1 ‘machine is blocked’
I had a read about and assumed it needed a replacement PCB or motor.
Found replacement one, that when i fitted, it now doesnt operate the machine. The lights come on, i can select a programme, but then nothing really happens. The door lock doesn’t activate, the water doesnt enter the machine, yet the programme timer ticks down.
Not sure what i have done wrong?
Does the PCB need to be programmed or something?advice much appreciated
thanks
Philpsy
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The module you have fitted was it a new replacement or used ? These have to be programmed to the machine
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its a second hand PCB, from the model AQGD 169 s.
I thought as its virtually the same size, and spin speed it would be a simple swap, or so i was told.
What is the proces with programming the PCB?
Is it something i can do, or does it need specialist equipment? Associated costs?Appreciate the advice, as my Missus is not happy
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£120 for Indesit engineer or £120 for a one use only smart card and card reader, ‘rock and a hard place’ comes to mind.
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Corrr blimey!!!!
£120 to programme it, what are they N.A.S.A launch pads?
How come it is som much just to programme it.
Is it not a laptop hook-up or similar?Isnt there a way for someone like myself to do it?
We are such a throwaway society, that its crazy to think its more economical to buy a new machine than get one repaired.
Help…….. got to be a cheaper way?
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It’s indesits way to prevent one off DIY repairers.
I believe indesits employees have a laptop capable of programming the pcb but this is not allowed outside of indesits.
For the rest of us we have to buy the card reader and one shot smart cards to achieve the desired goal.
As IADOM says, pay indesits fee or buy the tools and smart card to do the repair, either way its gonna cost around the same.
Of course when you come to replace the appliance you will remember this rip off and perhaps will consider more carefully which manufacturers help and which don’t.
Good luck
Jackal
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hi,I was just looking through the faults list for Hotpoint AQ9D69S and come across this.I have a washer tripping electrics only when programe is set,the power stays on when door is open but when you close door wait and then set to run it trips out.Have tryed disconnecting all part one at time but still fault occurs.Any help much appreciated. kevin
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Jackal,
i hear you pal.
So I basically need to write Indesit off of any further purchases. To be fair there is a factory shop in Peterborough, which a few years ago used to be very competitively priced, so it made sense us just popping round the corner to purchase a new machine.So when it comes to future purchases of appliances, who would you suggest?
The days when something was built to last seems to have way gone.
cheers
Philpsy
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Yep those were the days when Hotpoint were Hotpoint and they put some effort into build quality and customer service, sadly our Italian Indesit friends got hold of the company and the philosophy changed to build as many as you can as cheap as you can. Put 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} for sale and the rest make available as an exchange because sold ones are likely to need repairing.
Unfortunately some other manufacturers do the same. As to a replacement, it depends on your circumstances in my opinion. If you only have £200 to spend buy something budget from Argos or similar, it will most likely be a rebadged Vestel unit, will last about 2 years then throw it away.
£300-£400 puts you into Hoover/Zanussi/base Bosch range which will last a couple of years longer and be easier to DIY repair if it goes wrong.
Then your into the serious stuff made with quality in mind, easy to DIY repair when or rather if it goes wrong, with the ISE unit coming with a 10 year warranty as standard.
I would say budget £100-£120 per year you want it to last and then you can see that actually the ISE over the course if 10 years is really good value for money.
We don’t sell appliances so we don’t push any brand but speak from seeing most brands for repair and having the experience of dealing direct with the Aftersales Departments of those brands.
Good Luck
Jackal
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Jackal wrote:Yep those were the days when Hotpoint were Hotpoint and they put some effort into build quality and customer service, sadly our Italian Indesit friends got hold of the company and the philosophy changed to build as many as you can as cheap as you can. Put 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} for sale and the rest make available as an exchange because sold ones are likely to need repairing.
I sorry but you could not be further from the truth, yes machines are built at a price point but They do put massive effort into Q&R, Iv seen the amount of parts that are inspected and returned to Italy or the OE manufacture for further inspection.
I’d agree you see silly faults and the electronic can be an issue BUT on the whole it’s never as bad as it seems as we only see the broken ones.
They do implement changes to improve reliability but this takes time.
In general they are no different to most brands that have been forced to reduce prices to compete, the trade has issues due to there policy on spares and forcing to use laptop/smart card to program, however this is no different to most industry’s these days, cars were really bad for this until the EU stepped in.
I’m not saying there grate but there not the Devil as some would have you believe.
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My point was in relation to the Cust needing to spend an additional sum to buy the card reader needed to program the machine. It effectively adds another £100 retail to the cost of the repair for the OP.
To me that’s nothing but ripping the end user off and flys blatantly in the face of customer service. It is only a card reader which could easily be built onto the pcb itself resulting in the need just for a smart card.
Given that the electronics are really poor and known to be so by the manufacturer it again demonstrates what this particular manufacturer feels towards the end user.
We work for all sorts of manufacturers and most don’t force the end user into buying specialist tools to complete the repair; most provide programmed and unprogrammed versions, or a programming mode via the user interface thus negating this problem so Merloni seem to deliberately causing the issue for some reason.
I am in total agreement on the other points you rightly mention.
Best wishes and keep up the good work you do on here madangler, I for one appreciate your input.
Jackal
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