WTA Mentioned In Telegraph

Re: WTA Mentioned In Telegraph

I can’t see how that relates to or helps with the fact that the WTA was mentioned in the national press. 😕

Anyways, how about you stand for election and show them all how it’s done. 😉

K.

Re: WTA Mentioned In Telegraph

squadman wrote:No my comments were not regarding the fact that the WTA were quoted but more to do with the thread of the article suggesting that people buy new so called green appliances, therefore it was this that was relevent in line with the thrust of the article.

I didn’t read it that way at all.

Strip out the fluff and prejudice first.

What I got was that UK Government and the EU are pushing towards more energy efficient appliances beyond the scope of our little world as well as ours. That is being used to drive the opinion that energy costs will come down which, if the former falls flat then the latter is not achievable.

What the writer is saying is that, in a good many cases and especially in the lower echelons of society that this will likely not happen and that these people (as well as others) will probably face higher energy bills in the not too distant. Largely due to the long product replacement cycles.

Matter of fact that is probably also an incorrect view in part but I’ll park that.

All the politicians are doing is trying to put a positive spin on a negative fact, that fact being that energy costs will increase in coming years and that is completely unavoidable.

More than that, they’re also laying the groundworks for the fact that energy prices will increase so it doesn’t come as a huge shock to all.

Win/win. Kinda.

See if Ed Davey or whoever it is said, “Sorry folks but energy prices are going to increase by 15-25{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} over the next twenty years and there’s bog all we can do about it…”

Head on a pike time. Why can’t they do anything, what sort of buffoons cannot do something in two decades? Etc, etc, etc…

Or, “Energy prices will increase but we will have nuclear wind and wave online to offset some of the costs…”

Why won’t it negate them? Why are we spending all those billions standing still? Head on a pike…

So, here’s an idea says a bright civil servant…

Why don’t we put the onus on industry to deliver all this and say that, in real terms, that reduction in consumption by household products will actually save by the time we’re in the crapper. Not only that, we can blame them when it all doesn’t work out.

Meanwhile we tighten planning legislation and up the energy efficiency of new homes.

Then we get this tax so people have empty rooms that they’re heating up for no reason as there’s nobody in them, wasting energy.

Or, if we’re lucky, by the time we get to that point the rises will have taken place over many years and we’ve already told people to expect rises in energy costs.

But, with al this green stuff, we’ve actually raised taxes to pay for all the other stuff voters are demanding.

Or, to put it another way, despite the attempt to politicise this thread, which I sorta object to in small measure, there’s absolutely nothing that any politician or political party can do about this to meet all the expectations. Nothing, nadda, not a Goddamn thing.

It is far too wide reaching to even hope to dent the surface because the general public want their cake and to eat it too because, they want all the green tree-hugging stuff but, they almost all don’t want to pay for it or make any compromise to get it. Such as, as an example, giving up the huge consumption that we have in the West.

So it’s all very well berating the politicians, parties, the EU or the boogeyman but, in the end until the people consuming the products and energy actually wake up to the fact that they are responsible, not the state, for their consumption of goods it won’t change. And, politicians can’t say that or, head on a pike, Tower Bridge, do not pass go.

Government is trying to please everyone and, the reality check is, they can’t. Utopia is some way off yet.

Plus, it isn’t the politicians that drive policy, voters do, lobbyists and civil servants do. Not politicians.

TBH though, I don’t really care to get into a political or economics debate on this as I keep up with it and I don’t feel I’m qualified to have an authoritative opinion beyond what I see.

I do however care that the WTA and/or ISE, UKW even, gets quoted as pukka reference source of information on the industry by a national media outlet and that at least that opinion is taken note of in some small measure in that arena.

It lends credibility to the organisations and in turn, to you guys, the members.

That bit, I don’t see any downside to and I see no reason to politicise it either. I don’t care about the politics of how that came about, only that it did and hope that the members see benefit from the publicity.

K.