LG direct drive F1247TD

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  • #75960
    Seren63
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    Help please ! I have an LG direct drive washing machine, which is around 3 years old . It is immaculate although it is used daily. Over the past week it has started to make a loud buzzing/vibrating noise at certain points in the wash cycle . Most often in the wash but not rinse cycle but sometimes in both and for varying lengths of time . I normally use a Cotton cycle at 40C . It seems to be performing the wash perfectly and on time apart from this noise . I have contacted an engineer and he suspects the direct drive . He said to phone LG and claim on the 10 year direct drive warranty. LG have given me a number to call and say the engineer will visit at a cost of £130 (non refundable) . If it is the direct drive it will be fixed at no further cost. If it is not, I will be charged for parts needed to fix it on top of the £130. This seems excessive for a warranty part . I wondered if anyone on here could give me any advice from the above description of my fault (no error codes come up) as to whether I may have direct drive problem, before I spend my £130. Thank you .

    #396765
    keepitsimple
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    Re: LG direct drive F1247TD

    Mine does that once the wash water is up to temperature and the recirculating pump clicks in. The buzz comes from the plastic plinth at the front (which a gently kick resolves), although the pump itself is a bit rattly on hot washes. Mine isn’t exactly the same model though. I did wonder about LG’s “warranty” which is, based on your experience, outrageous bordering on criminal.

    #396766
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Re: LG direct drive F1247TD

    may be a pump problem. on some lg machines there are 2 pumps yours included

    one pump drains the water but the other one circulates the water and rains it on the washing.

    get a torch. start machine with no washing or soap powder.
    watch through the door glass. you are looking for a jet of water normally from the top of the door rubber. if your buzz is only there when this motor is running the its a pump problem

    Dave

    #396767
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: LG direct drive F1247TD

    Every warranty has limitations.

    The question is, can you live with the limitations?

    Or, did you check what the limitations were or assume things that perhaps were not as you may have thought?

    The 10 year warranty on LG direct drive washing machines, from what I can see, covers only the rotor and/or stator that drives the drum. It does not cover any other component at all and, crucially, it doesn’t cover the labour costs.

    You see the same on the likes of Hotpoint, CDA and Hoover among others that give a 5 year warranty but, the don’t cover the labour costs.

    But, to get the “free” parts you have to use the company’s own service at whatever cost they deem fit.

    From the company’s point of view, this is reasonable as otherwise, how would they know what they are being told or, what cost is being attributed to them, is actually correct?

    If you read what LG say, they make it clear that…

    The Direct Drive machines have a ten year warranty on the motor.

    That’s it.

    They’re not really welching on the deal at all, merely doing what they said they would. If the motor proves to be faulty, they’ll replace or repair it FOC. They just won’t do anything other than that but, they never said that they would. Nor do they say that they’d pony up for the labour cost to carry out that work.

    You can get any service you want, any warranty you like but, there will be an appropriate cost attached to that.

    I recently had a chat with someone in the car industry and it came about in conversation that Kia was discussed. He said that it was great this seven year warranty, until you sat down, read the terms and discovered what wasn’t covered. That would be the vast bulk of things that are liable to go wrong. The things that aren’t likely to go wrong, well, they’d be covered by the warranty.

    Then promptly pointed out that a good number of people assumed that everything was covered and that this view was not correct.

    I’ve seen little evidence of people questioning that but with appliances it’s somehow different? I don’t get that at all given the exact same legislation governs both.

    Which begs the question, is that the company’s problem for not being generous or, is it the owner’s problem for not reading the conditions under which that warranty was issued or offered?

    If you dig a bit you’ll see that even global corporations like LG just don’t have bucket loads of cash to throw at resolving such problems as demonstrated here:

    http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buyi … kdown.html

    The fact is, the party in the sale of virtually any appliance that makes the most money is HMRC. The cost to replace that motor, including the labour, is more than LG probably earned selling it in the first place. And, HMRC are getting a slice of that action too.

    I’m not defending LG at all here as there is no love lost between myself and LG I can assure you, but I am politely asking for the application of common sense based on evidence before they get hung, drawn and quartered.

    That said, if this is the system employed, it’d probably be better not to offer a warranty like this and save the confusion in the first place.

    But, marketing guys… spin… make people buy…

    K.

    #396768
    Seren63
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    Re: LG direct drive F1247TD

    Thank you for your replies . I will look at the recirculation pump in the morning, thank you for that . The warranty issue is not surprising as 10 years is indeed a long time to guarantee anything mechanical . The fact that the machine displays a large sticker on the front of it advertising this fact did lead me to believe it would be honoured without further cost to myself . I suppose this was too much to expect . This is my second LG direct drive machine and the first survived trouble free for about six years and was superb . For this reason , I replaced it with the updated model . I am willing to pay the £130 to have the machine repaired but I have contacted three repair engineers locally and all have declined to even come to look at an LG ! Having had four other makes of washing machine, I would pick the LG again as it has been much more reliable than any of the others. I will keep you posted for future reference 🙂

    #396769
    Seren63
    Participant

    Re: LG direct drive F1247TD

    Fantastic ! Thank you all, in particular electrofix :))) I am a happy woman ! It is indeed the recirculation pump. I am going to find out what is wrong and if it needs to be replaced I will do the job myself, with the help of online videos . Ha ha , watch this space 🙂 I have read all the safety precautions and have an electrician friend to call on if I get stuck .

    #396770
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: LG direct drive F1247TD

    According to the technical both pumps in that machine are the same and both are this one:

    http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/4681ea20 … drain-pump

    K.

    #396771
    Seren63
    Participant

    Re: LG direct drive F1247TD

    Thank you kwatts. Exactly what I may need and would have taken me a week to decide which one:)
    Kim

    #396772
    Seren63
    Participant

    Re: LG direct drive F1247TD

    Well I took the bottom off the machine and found the twin pumps . The one on the left , when opened, had a small nylon clothes tag stuck in it with threads tied round it ! Put it all back together and it’s still making the noise when the pump is working . I am presuming months of working with this foreign body in it has damaged it and I need to replace it ? I will order one and try . Thanks again to all who replied 🙂

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