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January 27, 2005 at 4:58 pm #7651
Kenny
ParticipantAm I reading manafauld gauges properly?
If it shows a presure of 1.9(barg) on 134a this equates to a temp of 0c
dose this mean that at point of entry into the evaporator we have 0c?or will the whole evaporator run at 0c?If I am on the right track that means I can charge a fridge upto 2barg to run at 1c insted of weighing the gas.
Or am i talking total kack (done a course while ago but not used it much. lost too meny gray cells between then and now)
January 27, 2005 at 8:35 pm #124512roly16
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The temperature that the back [gauge] pressure relates to is the temperature that the refrigerant is boiling off at in the evaporator. If I understand your question correctly you can’t get the fridge to run at a different cabinet temperature by altering the quantity of the refrigerant charge. if the cabinet’s got a rating plate giving you the weight of refrigerant required the easiest way to charge the system is to go off that.,either by weighing or using the scale on a charging cylinder. If there’s no weight given, charge by watching for icing back down the suction line and then gradually let it out till the icing back disappears.
January 27, 2005 at 9:40 pm #124513lokring
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😳 WOW WOW WOW you cant tell someone to do that your quote “gradually let it out till the icing back disappears. you go to jail for that these days……………….shame on ya!!
January 27, 2005 at 11:29 pm #124514admin
KeymasterRe: Refigeration gauges
fraid the old way of doing it, is illegal now…..
However way we all do it, we all are subject to Boyles Law, thats what governs the refrigeration process, understand Boyles Law and understand how it works.
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January 28, 2005 at 8:19 am #124515Kenny
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Cheers guys. Roly you were right I was thinking about changing cabinet temp buy altering the amount of gas in the system. I was just wondering if we could charge a system without scales. Even if we did not know the weight required. Trying to make up a model fridge in the workshop so do not have a rating plate.
The ice on the suction line is a good indicator of over charge. Dont worry I wont try that.AS for hell I will let you know what its like when I get there> 😈
February 3, 2005 at 7:45 am #124516roly16
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Lokring, Yes, you’re quite right of course. Thanks for pointing that out.
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