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August 18, 2013 at 9:13 pm #76744
persilautomatic
ParticipantHas anyone ever tested Almat liquid and powder detergents? They get a Which Best Buy and approved by the Good House Keeping Institute but wondered what a qualified washing machine engineer thought of the performance of cleaning?
I have always been a Persil or Surf fan but when not on offer its expensive.
August 18, 2013 at 10:01 pm #399642Martin
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Yes we currently are using/testing the Almat powder and it seems fine. Soft water here so a half dose does the job for sure. :tup:
August 18, 2013 at 10:05 pm #399643persilautomatic
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I may have to try it out. A friend passed on the ingredients list and they look very identical to Persil Colour in my opinion.
August 18, 2013 at 11:19 pm #399644kwatt
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Chemistry, gotta love it…
Just because the same constituent parts may be used, doesn’t mean that you will get the same result. There are of course scores of other examples. Such as numerous foods, drinks, medicines, perfumes and so on that all contain the same ingredients but are often radically different.
One of the most famous being Pepsi and Cola, same thing, same ingredients on the pack it appears. But then, so are most of the cheaper alternatives. All are different to some degree, the only question being, can you live with the compromise on price versus what you want, expect or the end result.
The most extreme example being a car.
The all have four wheels and an engine, surely they should all be the same or get the same result? They do in some respects, they move you from point A to point B, but many are radically different from another and how they move you and so on is a totally different thing that is often subjective and not measurable.
I haven’t tested Almat personally but, from what I can gather it looks to be okay but there are reports of oversudsing from it but, in all likelihood that’s from overdosing rather than the detergent itself.
Of course Martin is completely aware of that so any testing he does will account for that and no doubt the dose altered to suit the requirement. So long as you do that, as you should with any detergent, then there shouldn’t be any great issue.
But I’d bet Ariel and Persil still outperformed it on test. Of course, that depends on the test.
Whether you’d notice or not is a whole other conversation.
K.
August 18, 2013 at 11:51 pm #399645bammec
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I will say this. Almat biological powder doesn’t get whites as white as Ariel and I also find that the clothes come out a bit crisper. But for what Almat costs I can live with that and a scoop of oxy helps in a wash where you need your whites truly white.
I haven’t tried Almat liquids, but I can’t see why there would be any problem except on whites, somethng that liquid detergents always under-perform on due to lack of bleaching agents.
Which makes me ask, why can’t they put bleaching agents in liquid detergents?
August 19, 2013 at 6:51 am #399646kwatt
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bammec wrote:Which makes me ask, why can’t they put bleaching agents in liquid detergents?
Because it’s heavier and sinks.
So it floats to the bottom and near the end of the pack all you get is bleach and ruined clothes.
K.
August 19, 2013 at 12:07 pm #399647Martin
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bammec wrote:Which makes me ask, why can’t they put bleaching agents in liquid detergents?
IIRC bleach compounds cannot be contained within a gel capsule.
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