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December 16, 2013 at 12:14 pm #78633
twicknix
ParticipantOven element job, found the plug in that condition.
December 16, 2013 at 1:07 pm #406348Andy jones
ParticipantRe: How can the person who tested this in 2002 got away with
Is it not possible that plug could’ve been rewired in all that time, just playing devils advocate
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDDecember 16, 2013 at 1:34 pm #406349twicknix
ParticipantRe: How can the person who tested this in 2002 got away with
It’s possible but the age of the oven is consistent with the sticker on the plug. It’s one of those DIY job but it’s mind boggling that someone chose to wire up a plug like that.
December 16, 2013 at 1:53 pm #406350Andy jones
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Yep. Very poor
I’ve pat tested quite a few appliances over the years where I wonder how on earth it previously passed
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDDecember 16, 2013 at 4:26 pm #406351Martin
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It just emphasises what a load of boll@cks PAT testing is. Very often these ‘fly by night’ PAT guys are not registered, controlled or monitored in any way. You can get a 1000 stickers printed and advertise your services. Plug in an old PAT test box you bought for 3O quid off eBay and away you go….!
December 16, 2013 at 4:33 pm #406352Andy jones
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Martin wrote:It just emphasises what a load of boll@cks PAT testing is. Very often these ‘fly by night’ PAT guys are not registered, controlled or monitored in any way. You can get a 1000 stickers printed and advertise your services. Plug in an old PAT test box you bought for 3O quid off eBay and away you go….!
Same as in most trades, you get the odd cowboy that then tars everyone
I did the course about 6 years ago just to add anther bow
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDDecember 16, 2013 at 5:00 pm #406353Martin
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Andy jones wrote:I did the course about 6 years ago just to add anther bow
So you would be fully aware of these cowboys and how unaccountable and unworthy the whole corrupt system is.
Using the oven plugtop as an example. How could the ‘system’ possibly make that PAT tester accountable for passing such an obvious, fundamental electrical error? I already know the answer. What system? What answer?….nada!
Companies, landlords, and local authorities and all other such that make electrical devices for employees, tenants and the public in general available to operate must have annual (at best – or once in a lifetime) inspection/test for electrical safety. But it is just a ‘box ticking’ excercise in order simply get their insurance company to accept liability should any fault occur. Any comeback and the guy that put the sticker on the plugtop has either long gone or was never ‘approved’ in the finest place.
The whole PAT thing a nonesense. 🙁
December 16, 2013 at 5:08 pm #406354Andy jones
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I totally agree by the way, but I feel happy that when I’ve tested an appliance that it IS safe, it’s all about the blame and claim society we now live in
I went to a seawards seminar earlier in the year and talk is that they are looking to regulate the industry but at the moment that’s all it is just talk
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDDecember 16, 2013 at 5:23 pm #406355DrDill
ParticipantRe: How can the person who tested this in 2002 got away with
What if that oven was second hand and the pug top was taken off the appliance that was tested and used on this appliance?
it was 11 years ago, you are assuming that the plug and oven have always been together.December 16, 2013 at 5:27 pm #406356lee8
ParticipantRe: How can the person who tested this in 2002 got away with
How many people died or houses destroyed.
Just saying.
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December 16, 2013 at 10:27 pm #406357admin
KeymasterRe: How can the person who tested this in 2002 got away with
This reminds me , Two months ago I was ask to change a electric hob. Glass broken on old one only to find it was wired with a 13amp plug the old hob was 4.5kw 😯 Done by the all in one kitchen fitter,
canufixit
December 16, 2013 at 11:01 pm #406358DrDill
ParticipantRe: How can the person who tested this in 2002 got away with
They obviously never had all 4 zones on then at the same time! Would haveblown the fuse.
December 16, 2013 at 11:40 pm #406359stratfordgirl
ParticipantRe: How can the person who tested this in 2002 got away with
Not so, a 13A fuse will quite happy allow a 20A current to pass continuously without blowing. I’ve had at least two customers running 5kW “hard wired” American style tumble dryers on a 13A plug over several years without any obvious problem. Illegal of course, particularly in commercial premises, and a potential fire hazard.
I agree about the poor standard of PAT testing. I often see appliances in rental properties with recent Pass labels and no obvious sign of the appliance having been moved to access the mains plug. I remember advising my boss’s secretary in a public sector organisation to get a 4-gang trailing socket pat tested as its mains lead wasn’t clamped, and it came back unrepaired with a Pass sticker.
December 17, 2013 at 7:04 pm #406360larry
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I am amazed that more people are not electrocuted when I see the bodged wiring jobs in houses especially when machines that require an earth lead are used with 2 core extension leads, thats why over the years I’ve always done an earth continuity test on machines.
December 18, 2013 at 3:07 pm #406361DrDill
ParticipantRe: How can the person who tested this in 2002 got away with
Sorry, a 13amp fuse blows when more than 13amps is drawn through it, no way can 20 amps be drawn through it, unless the fuse was somehow working at a greater load.
That’s the point of a fuse, its in line and blows when its rated load is exceeded, it is their whole purpose in life. -
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